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Contents 1 August 7 1.1 Only source available is down 1.2 Template messages 1.3 Entries for Ella Raines and Robin Olds 1.4 Displaying jpg images 1.5 Font too large and Wikipedia displays too large 1.6 can i forward? 1.7 How to indicate a citation is needed? 1.8 Opening a link to a topic 1.9 How to create a new article 1.10 kidnap article's vanishing act! 1.11 Jew Watch - Frank Weltner Entry 1.12 find Ayat ul Kursi 1.13 compromised user account 1.14 mojo condoms page deleted 1.15 buzztard music composer page was deleted 1.16 Template overkill? 1.17 needing info. on the role of dalmations with the fire service. 1.18 Images 1.19 Deleting user name from existing entry 1.20 Req. article list blanked? 1.21 Anchor Links (type #link) in <imagemap> 1.22 Attorney in Arizona 1.23 1991 Australian Grand Prix 1.24 Linking years, not dates 1.25 Updating Wikipedia 1.26 Login Errors 1.27 AfD Question 1.28 Images 1.29 How do you add images onto wikipedia? 1.30 2 Tabbed page in Mediawiki 1.31 Edit alerts 1.32 Uploaded image does not display 1.33 English wikipedia 1.34 Sorting varible number parameters for columns and rows 1.35 Image metadata 1.36 Spelling & moving re paragraphs

[edit] August 7

[edit] Only source available is down

The now redirected official site, fzerox.com, has information found no where else but on fan sites. The web achieve only sends me to the front page and the page I specifically want is not displaying properly. I have the copy-pasted information from there, so is it possible to use fzerox.com along with the parameter "quote" (with that information) as a citation? Is there anyway to use fzerox.com as a source anymore? FMF 00:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

• If you were able to access that web page before, and you used that information as a source in the article, I don't see any reason why you can't cite it as a reference. The {{cite web}} template has a parameter stating the date on which the web page was retrieved. That's done because people recognize that content on a web site changes or gets deleted, so adding the date indicates that it was retrieved at that point in time. If someone is challenging a reference, they'll either have to accept that the information was there in the past, or they'll have to provide evidence to the contrary. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 03:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template messages

Just how many template messages exist on the English Wikipedia? Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 01:27, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

No idea, go count them :-). Melsaran (formerly Salaskаn) 03:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd be counting at WP:TM, since not everything in the Template: space is necessarily a template message - a lot of them would be infoboxes and the like. Confusing Manifestation 04:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Entries for Ella Raines and Robin Olds

Hi, I am the daughter of Ella Raines and Robin Olds. Robin has just passed away on June 14th. My sister and I would appreciate you adding the information about Robin and Ella's two children as follows, two daughters, Christina Olds of Steamboat Springs, Colorado and Susan Olds Scott-Risner of North Bend, Washington.

Also, for your information, my mother NEVER taught acting classes. That line in your bio is wrong. Please contact me directly for correct information. Thank you, Christina Olds

I removed the acting teacher bit because it was unsourced and contested; it failed our policy Wikipedia:Verifiability. Adding that they had two children might help the article, but I'm not sure that where they live is relevant. Please, though, in addition to following Wikipedia:Verifiability, please heed Wikipedia:No original research. That said... Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. WODUP 02:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Displaying jpg images

I uploaded 3 jpg images, but only one of them displays on my page... I can't figure out what's different about the 2 that won't display vs. the one that will... the one that displays is the first one I uploaded. CraigNGC 02:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

What are the images? I just might be able to help before I go on a wikivacation...  Jonjonbt 03:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I see Image:Sigmoid.jpg, and I see Image:Sigmoid.JPG and Image:Sigmoid2.JPG which look like the same image to me. Image:Sigmoid1.JPG was already deleted because it was a duplicate. On User:CraigNGC/subpage, the image isn't displaying in the gallery because it's typed out as Image:Sigmoid2.jpg. Maybe try Image:Sigmoid2.JPG. WODUP 03:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Font too large and Wikipedia displays too large

I've searched the FAQ's and purged. How do I get my "normal" Wikipedia display back? rich 03:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm guessing browser function. You can just close the tab, or the browser and it should restore it; it does for me anyway. i ^said 03:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

If your mouse has a scroll wheel, try holding CTRL and scrolling up. Lara♥Love 03:26, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

If you've got Firefox, go to View → Text Size → Normal. If you don't have firefox, tell us what you do have. WODUP 03:43, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] can i forward?

hai sirs

              can i have the facility to forward any article  to a gmail or yahoo  accout?

if yes tell me how. reply me soon —Preceding unsigned comment added by Megalak (talk • contribs)

No, Wikipedia doesn't have a feature like that. WODUP 04:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

To see some things vaguely like this (with more emphasis on vaguely than like), go to the Editor's index, scroll down to the "News:" heading, and look at links such as Wikipedia:WikiProject WikipediaWeekly. --Teratornis 05:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How to indicate a citation is needed?

I know I've seen these before, but can't remember the format. I know it's a superscript where a citation number would go. Is it the words "Citation needed" enclosed in brackets? Or something else?

Also-- I seem to remember these being rendered with blue text (but not as links). How is this done?

Thanks! Bryan

It's a template called {{fact}}, which produces this: ^{[citation needed]}. It is a link, but a link to the Wikipedia guideline on citing sources. Confusing Manifestation 04:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Opening a link to a topic

Vfg061528 04:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)I cannot open links to topics retreived in search box; get error message saying a general protection fault has occured; upon closing the error message, Internet Explorer is closed.

[edit] How to create a new article

How do I create a new article?

Wikipedia:Your first article. If you are not a registered user, see Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Shalom ^Hello 06:09, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] kidnap article's vanishing act!

Greetings and salutations,

I was reading up on some kidnapping cases and following a link under the 'similar incidents' i stumbled across a very interesting article. I wanted to read the article again (and send the link for a friend) however it has since vanished. This is my second attempt at trying to find it but my searches have been to no avail.

Here is what i remember of the article; - it was set around the 17th - 18th Century. - it was about a young boy found wandering in the streets. He was about 16 when found but had a mind of a 6 year old. - he was thought to be of noble blood, and perhaps was a distantly related to napoleon. - there were a few attempts on his life, and eventually he was killed by an assassin. - there was a statue resurrected with a plaque saying "here a nobody was killed by a nobody".

With all the above remembered you'd think i could find this article... but alas i need your help!!! Please help me to find this again!!!

Kind regards, Claire***

That's a tough question because you cannot provide us with any names or specific dates. Try looking at articles in Category:Kidnappings. Shalom ^Hello 06:11, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

From memory, (and confirmed by my sources), the person you're after is one Kaspar Hauser, whose article is here. Is this what you were looking for? --Benea 13:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jew Watch - Frank Weltner Entry

I encountered the Wikipedia entry for "Jew Watch" (jewwatch.com). When I was looking for more information about him on google.com search I noticed that he had linked a fake Wikipedia entry about himself to his anti-semetic website. I think this should be mentioned in the Wikipedia Jew Watch entry as well as a spoof I encountered (killweltner.com) which I feel might be pertinent subject matter.

Also, why is there no Wikipedia entry for Weltner himself, he seems like a dangerous fellow and I think people should know more about him. Is there not enough know information about him to make an entry at this time?

Thanks

Fascinated Fascinated

There is no article because no-one has yet written one. If, after reading Wikipedia:Notability (people) (in a nutshell: the person must have been the subject of published secondary sources) you think there should be one then feel free to create it. Be careful to closely follow Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, however. Articles cannot contain critical material that is not taken from reliable sources. This is very closely policed on articles about living people, for obvious reasons. Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 11:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately I don't have the ability to write something on Frank Weltner, I don't know much about his personal life; but if I do have pertinent information to the Jew Watch entry how long do I have to wait until I would be able to edit it considering it is a Semi-Protected page?

[edit] find Ayat ul Kursi

I have just findout the Ayat ul Kursi

See Throne Verse. utcursch | talk 10:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] compromised user account

A message from my new user account, since my old user account appears to be compromised as of today. Nobody has used the account yet to edit articles. But my old password does no longer work. Is there a way to get my account back? How do I prove I am the real Teardrop_onthefire? Teardrop inthewater 10:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

If you had entered your e-mail while creating the earlier account, you can go to Special:Userlogin and click on "E-mail new password". utcursch | talk 10:27, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately I didn't Teardrop inthewater 11:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] mojo condoms page deleted

Hi, A page I loaded on "mojo condoms" was deleted as it was deemed to be advertising.

All content was factual and I believe you are being biased against smaller brands/companies. If you going to delete my page please be consistent and delete, "innocent Drinks", "Durex", "Coca-Cola", etc. I am happy to reword anything that caused offence.

Regards Paul Santry

From what I've seen of the article ("mojo provides a fun, edgy, alternative condom brand to shake up the traditional...") it seems to be written in a promotional manner. Contrast this with any of the articles you named to see why this was deleted and they weren't. If you wish to recreate your article in a more neutral style then you may do so, but you may like to read some of Wikipedia:Business' FAQ, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 11:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

(Following edit conflict) The article, in the form you posted it, screamed adspeak—like language lifted from a promotional brochure. In fact it did indeed consist of nothing but promotional language; it was a blatant copyright violation of the brand's website, and could have been deleted on that independent basis as well as because it asserted no importance. Note also that if you are connected to this product you should not be writing the article as you would have a conflict of interest. If this article is to "stick", it needs to be written with neutral language and must cite to independent, reliable sources which treat the subject in a substantive manner. (remainder removed as redundant)--Fuhghettaboutit 11:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] buzztard music composer page was deleted

I am the author of that software, but have not initially created the page. I was about to extend the page (was more like a stub before), but had to notice that it is gone. This leaves some dangling links. Unfortunately the comment in the Deletion log is not helpful at all. It says "(non notable software, expired prod)". Google has 15,900 hits for buzztard alone where the first hit page is all related to the project. I also question the competence of one person to decide what is notable and not. Besides the product is not expired. Is there a chance to revive that page? Can I access the article and propose a extended version. Ensonic 13:26, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

"prod" is a deletion process. It does not stand for "product." someone places a prod template on the page, and nobody objected for five days. An administrator then reviewed the page and agreed with the original prod when it expired. If anyone had objected during the five days, the deletion would not have happened. SO, tow people took positive steps, to delete, and nobody (of the many people who watch prods) took a positive step to object. Nevertheless, You can still raise an objection and get the article re-instated. Please see WP:PROD for the whole process. Incidentally, the reason prod was invented was to simplify non-controversial deletes. Unfortunately, it sometime nukes a worthwhile article. I'm personally somewhat ambivalent about this, but if you click on "random article" about ten times, you will prpbably see why we need something a bit less cumbersome than WP:AFD to permit reasonable quality improvement. And thanks for spending time tryng to improve Wikipedia. -Arch dude 14:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template overkill?

I keep a subpage for headlines about upcoming films (seen here), and it's fairly long at 123 KB. I use both Cite web and Cite news templates to add the headlines, so I can easily copy/paste them into film articles when they are created. However, at around this point, the templates do not display properly, only showing either "Template:Cite web" or "Template:Cite news", which is the same pattern to the end of the subpage. Is this because I've used both templates too many times in this subpage, or is there another issue? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 13:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

There's a limit to how much templates can be used on a page, called the 'pre-expand include limit'. You can look at the generated HTML source for a page, to see how close you are to the limit; the page is pretty long (I've waited for ages trying to load it), and here's the statistics for it:

<!-- 
Pre-expand include size: 2045925 bytes
Post-expand include size: 594763 bytes
Template argument size: 372417 bytes
Maximum: 2048000 bytes
-->

The pre-expand include is just below the maximum, implying that the maximum was reached and the software stopped parsing templates on that page. I'd suggest splitting it into several smaller pages, to reduce the load on the servers, and they'll start parsing the templates again correctly for you. --ais523 17:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I've broken it up into further subpages, and the templates all seem to show now. Thanks for the advice, and sorry to put you through these ages of loading time. :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] needing info. on the role of dalmations with the fire service.

im trying to find information about dalmations and there role with the fire service. i cant find anything. can you help me?24.210.254.98 14:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Try searching within the relevant articles (e.g. Dalmatians). If this does not work, do a Google run. If you cannot find it anywhere, you may ask it on the reference desk; the help desk is only for questions about the workings of Wikipedia. Melsaran 15:51, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

How do I retrieve an image from the commons. Do I just copy down the code, eg. Image:Example.png, or do I have to upload it again for Wikipedia? - Pheonix 15:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you just copy the image name and insert it normally. You don't have to upload it again. GhostPirate 15:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting user name from existing entry

I apparently edited without logging in. My user name appears on the HISTORY page. I would like to get rid of it. How? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.69.116.238 (talk • contribs) 17:20, 7 August 2007

Sorry, that is not possible for legal reasons. The names of all contributors are stored in the history of a page for compliance with the GNU Free Documentation License. Melsaran 15:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Req. article list blanked?

OK this is probably the wrong place to ask, but are the requsted article lists regularly blanked? I was checking out medicine-related article requests and someone had blanked it and added only two requests (this was in all medicine sub-categories). Looked a lot like vandalism to me, but because I wasn't sure I didn't revert it myself. Jack Daw 15:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Yep, an IP address blanked the page and added some vandalism. I'll try to fix it now. Thanks. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 18:23, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anchor Links (type #link) in <imagemap>

I ran into a problem with <imagemap> -- it won't let me use anchor links. for example, if you try to use #link, the actual link will go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#link instead of normal anchor link behavior. I have seen somebody bring up this problem at wikimedia, but the solution was beyond my understanding. It appeared that they were modifying the actual <imagemap> extension which I obviously can't do here. Could somebody please help me with this? Here is the image map I'm trying to use:

Template:ListByUSStateTOC

It is possible to use a link in the format page#link to use anchor links, but since this is a TOC template, multiple articles would use it. That would make it impossible to make a direct reference to a page in this situation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben Boldt (talk • contribs)

My first guess about what to do, without actually looking seriously at the problem, would be to try linking from the image map to a redirect page which in turn links to the section you want on another page. --Teratornis 15:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

For an example of a redirect that links to a section on another page, see: WP:PAPER, and the redirect page itself, without redirection. You could try linking to WP:PAPER from your image map just to see if this will work. Also note, your question would be easier to answer if you would link to the page(s) describing the feature you are trying to use, which appears to be mw:Extension:ImageMap. You could study the other examples in Category:Wikipedia imagemaps to see if anyone else has managed to link to name anchors. --Teratornis 16:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

This is a bug in the ImageMap extension — or, arguably, in Title.php, which should do the right thing automatically in this case rather than requiring the caller to worry about it. Anyway, I've fixed this particular problem in rev:24657. (The reason I haven't fixed it in Title.php is that the code gets rather complicated if there are query parameters and variants involved, and I don't have the time to figure it out right now. Fortunately, ImageMap doesn't need to worry about either of those.) —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 17:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Is there anything I can do right now or do I have to wait until <imagemap> is updated? I can't quite wrap my mind around how a redirect page could help. Since these are anchor links, the browser should stay on the same page and just scroll to the appropriate anchor rather than visiting different pages.

Ben Boldt 20:56, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The one thing you could do is to hardcode the name of the target page in the links. Of course, that rather defeats the point of using a template in the first place. The {{FULLPAGENAME}} variable would help, except that variables don't work in imagemaps either. :( —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 14:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Attorney in Arizona

Help me. I need to find an attorney in Arizona that deals with slander issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.173.25.197 (talk • contribs)

Sorry, that's not something that we at Wikipedia can help you with. Melsaran 17:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1991 Australian Grand Prix

Hi, I have been improving the ‘1991 Australian Grand Prix’ page, but some of my references have been removed. I would therefore like to ask what the reason is behind the removals?

For example, I made statements within the ‘race’ section that most defiantly need references to prove the claims. This includes reference number three and four, on the page. However the reference comes from an F1 clip from Youtube that is BBC footage. How, therefore can I provide the evidence, in the referencing, without being subject to copyright and editing?

I would like to keep the reference in the page because it is vital to the document and is vital evidence to the claim.

Thank You

Generally, Youtube isn't considered a reliable source due to the fact that anybody can manipulate and post a video with no oversight. If you can find the same video on the BBC site, you can link to it there, but Youtube isn't the best place to look, even if it looks like an authentic BBC broadcast. For more information, see WP:RS and WP:V. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 18:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Linking years, not dates

Should years be put in brackets? As in "Joe was born in 1876"? I understand that dates should be put in links, but what about just a reference to a year?MarkinBoston 18:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Generally individual years shouldn't be linked unless as part of a full date. --Cherry blossom tree 18:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Updating Wikipedia

My company just relaunched our new website and it was brought to my attention that we should update our listing on Wikepedia.

I'm not the most technical person but I did try to update some minor pieces of info which was fine, but then I tried to edit a larger part, saved it and now I've completely ruined our page on your site. I've obviously edited out some important coding because it looks completely different from what was initially there.

I have tried to follow your editing instructions, but as I said, I'm pretty much technically clueless.

Would someone be available to help put those important codings back in so our page looks abit more legible?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. --Scarnp01 18:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Paola Scarnato, BTG plc

I think I've fixed it - it was just missing a couple of squiggly brackets. --Cherry blossom tree 18:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Login Errors

I just signed up and have been unable to login. I have tried about 8 times unsuccessfully. It tells me my username or confirmation code are wrong. Neither of which is true. I edited a page and wish for my IP address NOT to be shown, so I signed up in order for that to not happen.

Thank you in advance.

Krystal

My only suggestion is to attempt the process again. Lara♥Love 19:25, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Question

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Sirs:

I'd like to learn why my article "Benedictine School" was Speedy Deleted and whether I may somehow re-post it (deletion log: 07:31, 3 August 2007 Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington (Talk | contribs) deleted "Benedictine School" (content was: '{{db|Advertising, copyvio from http://www.benschool.org/benedictine.html as well}}