Talk:Helen Garner

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Critics in her home country Australia are divided as to the merit of Garner's work. Mainstream publications regard her as one of Australia's finest writers, but underground thinkers dismiss her work entirely.

Would you like to cite some evidence for the claim about "underground thinkers"? I know that The First Stone made her persona non grata amongst some feminists, but the article's claim is considerably wider. --Robert Merkel 00:58, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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To the non-logged in contributor from Melbourne University who originated this article, I have decided to split off a seperate article on The First Stone. If I recall correctly, the criticism of the book was considerably more multi-pronged than what was stated, and a more complete analysis would be more appropriate for a seperate article IMO.

By the way, have you considered getting an account here? You can use a pseudonym if you want. --Robert Merkel 07:19, 13 Aug 2003 (UTC)

[edit] 'La Mama: The Story of a Theatre' edit

Cosmolino edited: Non-fiction writing - 'removed incorrext attribution of a book'. I assume good faith about Cosmolino's edit. OK, so it is a fact that Garner is not the sole author of the book. However - see the results of a Google of 'Jones Burstall Garner "La Mama"' - if Garner is not considered a co-author, she's at least a named contributor to the book.
Cosmolino's edit also muddled a few links - fixed them. --Shirt58 13:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links

There is something peculiar about the External Links. The link provided doesn't match what the text says it is, plus I can't quite understand what Peter Craven has to do with Kerryn Goldsworthy. Will try to research the Meanjin in question (in the coming weeks) but to the best of my knowledge Meanjin articles are not available online as this external link implies. Sterry2607 (talk) 12:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Silly me ... months later I've worked out what was wrong and fixed it - the link was to a bio and the bio included refs to Craven and Goldsworthy.Sterry2607 (talk) 02:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions please

If there is anyone out there looking at this article I'd be interested in ideas re how to structure it. Garner's career is so diverse and she has been attended by such controversy (and varied opinion) that it is hard to work out how best to organise an article about her. I'm happy to do more work on it, but I wonder how best to proceed. I also suspect that more of her books should have their own pages - particularly MONKEY GRIP, JOE CINQUE'S CONSOLATION.Sterry2607 (talk) 02:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the novels and non-fiction works need pages of their own. Separating these out might allow you to see the rest of the page more clearly. Just a thought. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 07:14, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Perry...I'll try to get back to it in a week or two and see what I can do.Sterry2607 (talk) 10:07, 2 May 2008 (UTC)