Talk:Heinrich Heine

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Contents 1 His mother? Prussian? 2 Really born "Chaim"? 3 Marx: Friend or acquaintance? 4 Epitaph

[edit] His mother? Prussian?

Where the hell did you come with that from? His mother couldnt be Prussian, because if she was, then he couldnt be a Jew. He was born Jewish, then his mother was Jewish. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.69.57.179 (talk) 16:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC).

Ethnicity is passed through both parents, not just the mother. CommanderJamesBond (talk) 03:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Really born "Chaim"?

The new translation of Ludwig Börne (ed. Jeffrey L. Sammons, Camden House, 2006) says (p. 13 n. 42, "There was an old rumor, propagated particularly by anti-Semites, that Heine's Jewish name was Chaim, but there is no evidence for it." If no one can point to a recent reliable source that confronts this, the claim should be removed from the article. Wareh 20:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marx: Friend or acquaintance?

Wac Karl Marx a friend of Heine or an acquaintance? Heine was very critical of communists, saying that though their language is different, their goal is the very same absolutism he always opposed. 75.84.113.125 (talk) 21:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Epitaph

The article claimed that Heine had the following (tacky, doggerel) couplet engraved on his tombstone:

Hier liegen meine gebeine -- 
Wenn wären sie nur deine! 
Heine. 

("Here lie my bones -- if only they were yours! Heine." ^[1]) While I don't know whether Heine penned that verse or not, I do know they are nowhere near his tombstone. There are some excellent photographs of the grave here. There is a poem engraved, a much finer lyric that begins:

Wo wird einst des Wandermuden 
Letzte Ruhestatte sein? ... 

(Where will the tired wanderer's / last resting place be?), etc. So I deleted what appears to be a myth from the article. Unfortunately, it is one that might have taken firmer renewed life due to a long sojourn on this article. Best, Eliezg (talk) 22:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Mea culpa, "I have been Foolish and Deluded". Thank you and best wishes, --HTO (talk) 22:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)