Talk:Heinkel He 219

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see lists of open tasks and regional and topical task forces. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the quality scale.
Additional information and associated task forces: This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-Class status: Referencing and citation: not checked Coverage and accuracy: not checked Structure: not checked Grammar: not checked Supporting materials: not checked To fill out this checklist, please add the following to the template call: <!-- B-Class-1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points have appropriate inline citations. --> |B-Class-1=yes/no <!-- B-Class-2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies. --> |B-Class-2=yes/no <!-- B-Class-3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content. --> |B-Class-3=yes/no <!-- B-Class-4. It is free from major grammatical errors. --> |B-Class-4=yes/no <!-- B-Class-5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams. --> |B-Class-5=yes/no Associated task forces (general topics): Military aviation task force

	This article is within the scope of the Aviation WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see lists of open tasks and task forces. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.	Aviation Portal
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the quality scale.
Additional information and associated projects or task forces: This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-Class status: Referencing and citation: not checked Coverage and accuracy: not checked Structure: not checked Grammar: not checked Supporting materials: not checked To fill out this checklist, please add the following to the template call: <!-- B-Class-1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points have appropriate inline citations. --> |B-Class-1=yes/no <!-- B-Class-2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies. --> |B-Class-2=yes/no <!-- B-Class-3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content. --> |B-Class-3=yes/no <!-- B-Class-4. It is free from major grammatical errors. --> |B-Class-4=yes/no <!-- B-Class-5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams. --> |B-Class-5=yes/no Aircraft WikiProject

Contents 1 "Mythical" status? 2 Production numbers 3 Sources 4 Survivors

[edit] "Mythical" status?

By my reckoning, this is by no means one of the "famous" aircraft of WW2. It has not been widely heard of by the public, and only aircraft like the Spitfire, Mustang, Flying Fortress, Focke-Wulf (190) and Me-109 deserve such a description. This article reads as though it is describing one of the most important aircraft of the Second World War. In fact, the Uhu was merely another german might-have-been late war project that made little to no contribution to the Axis war effort. Like many such weapons, its reputation is based on sparsity of evidence - the 219 was no wonder-weapon, and was not remotely equal to aircraft like the Mosquito. Clearly, this article has been heavily influenced by a bias towards the He-219, and we should tone down the praise that's being so librally heaped on an undeserving and unremarkable aircraft. --Corinthian 11:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I believe you're wrong about the Mosquito, actually they performed similarly with some of the guns removed from the He 219. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.65.124.128 (talk) 20:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Production numbers

Does anybody have verifyable sources about production numbers ? I found in a german discussion board the following info:

• 106 A-0 with DB 603A
• 15 A-0 with DB 603AA
• 89 A-2 with DB 603AA
• 210 A-7 with DB 603E
• 5 D-1 with Jumo 213E (prototypes), engine installation tested in A-2 fuselelage

Source is stated as Ernst Heinkel AG delivery plan from December 15, 1944 with deliveries as of December 11, 1944. --Denniss 22:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

It appears that a lot of the text has been lifted and simply paraphrased from the Smithsonian site [1]. That page has a copyright notice on it. What is the correct approach? Plagiarism isn't acceptable obviously. The source should at least be referenced. Any ideas?

[edit] Survivors

You should be aware that the Smithsonian's UHU, described as having been obtained by the U.S. Operation Lusty at "Grove, South Jutland, Germany" must refer to "Einsatzfliegerhorst Grove, Central Jutland, Denmark (current Karup Air Base)" - this seems to be important to fix since the error apparently has been lifted from the Smithsonian's site.