Talk:Heimatvertriebene

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[edit] reference only to Poland

living in today's Poland - why is Poland the only country mentioned in the article?Xx236 08:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV

• The name of this article is POV.
• There are plenty of articles about expelled Germans. Maybe this article should be integrated with them.Xx236 08:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

• Xx236, you do have a point, but it's more complicated than that. The basic meaning of Heimatvertriebene, namely "people who have been expelled from their region of origin" is essentially descriptive. The term may have become POV in so far as those who use (or used) it do (or did) so to express a particular opinion on their situation and (arguably) on the events that had led to that situation. Notwithstanding that, the term certainly used to be a common and widely recognised one in German politics and should be included in wikipedia. I agree this need not be a stand-alone article in terms of content. The general phenomenon is treated on Flight and expulsion of Germans during and after WWII, the Heimatvertiebene as a political group on Federation of Expellees. It would suffice for this page to simply explain the term and refer to those two pages. Perhaps it should also be added to Category:Forced migration. athinaios 12:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

It would seem that labelling the memorial pictured as "irredentist" is POV as well. The English translation of the inscription would seem to be "Right of return is a human right", whereas the entry on irredentism defines it as "any position advocating annexation of territories administered by another state on the grounds of common ethnicity or prior historical possession, actual or alleged". Now if the inscription said something like Volksdeutsche ist Deutschland I could see it. But as it reads, it doesn't seem to refer to any nationalist territorial claims. Is there a greater context surrounding the memorial that I'm not aware of? Rpine75 (talk) 19:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)