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Contents 1 Counter Strike Source 2 US Special forces ? 3 Silencer/Sound Supressor 4 P8 merge 5 In-flight discharge 6 Bobbed hammer

[edit] Counter Strike Source

I think that this article should offer a screen shot from the popular video game, Counter Strike Source, because that is what every Counter Terrorist is issued with in the game.Defy You 03:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

This article is about the weapon, not the game. The fact that the USP appears is your favorite video game (and another endless list of others) does not add anything to article. It already mentions the common appearance of the pistol in popular culture, even with a couple examples, and that's more than enough. --Squalla 04:19, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] US Special forces ?

It is true it is used by them beside MK-23 Mod 0 ?--Max Mayr 15:04, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

From what I could find, it looks like some Special Operations forces have USP Tacticals that they sometimes use. Nburden ^(T) 16:23, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

SF use pretty much anything they want to, I'd imagine. A "standard issue" doesn't exist for them. 214.13.173.15 (talk) 01:23, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Silencer/Sound Supressor

I noticed it said "citation needed" for that bit where the silencer for the Mark 23 will not fit on the USP Tactical. I have a source, it's my USP Tactical owners manual which states quite clearly in bold text "The MK23 sound suppressor cannot be attached to the USP45 Tactical pistol!" with exclamation point. It adds (but not in bold) "A specifically designed sound suppressor is available for the USP45 Tactical pistol." This information can be found on page 40 of the HK USP SERIES OPERATOR'S MANUAL. So how would I cite this as a source, or can someone do it for me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.74.245.106 (talk) 01:40, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] P8 merge

I put up tags to integrate the P8 into this article. Same pistols, different name. The P8 also has plastic opaque magazines and a safety lever that was rotated 180 as requested by the Bundeswehr. Koalorka (talk) 17:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I completely support this merge. A different control lever setup and barrel are not enough to warrant a seperate article. Nburden ^(T) 17:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Support per WP:GUNS#Variants. Good catch Koalorka finding the P8's article.--LWF (talk) 20:32, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] In-flight discharge

Should it be mentioned that this is the weapon that was discharged on US Airways flight 1536? Jdkessler (talk) 19:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Not unless it can be shown that the incident to which you refer had an effect on the USP.--LWF (talk) 19:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bobbed hammer

The article states, about the bobbed hammer: "This reduces possible snag from the hammer on a holster or clothing while the pistol is being drawn, but still allows the USP Compact to be cocked from a decocked or half-cocked position even in the absence of a spurred hammer." In fact the USP Compact hammer is completely uncockable from a totally decocked position. It's flush with the back of the frame. From half-cock, it may SORT OF be cocked with difficulty. 68.101.130.214 (talk) 09:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I partially agree with the article - you can certainly cock it from the decocked position and it is not flush. Not as easy as a spurred hammer, but not that difficult. I disagree with the article, and the the other comment for that matter, in that there is no half-cocked position on a USP Compact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.41.1.236 (talk) 00:31, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

the hammer is bobbed enough to not hook on clothing or a holster. when decocked, the rubber pad supplies ample grip to cock the firearm. when the hammer is dropped, as in dry-fired or when a cartridge misfires, the hammer is flush with the rear of the slide, not the frame.

the article is completely accurate on this (non-)issue.Automatictransgression (talk) 05:51, 13 April 2008 (UTC)