User talk:Heaven's Army

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[edit] Indonesian articles

Please note the requirements of English Wikipedia - if we add material we cite/add references -(thats why at the bottom of the edit space the issue is noted as 'material must be verifiable - thats is WP:V) otherwise the material needs to be removed. Also when you revert please note WP:3RR - if you are new to wikipedia - please read the welcome and introduction very carefully before editng further. Thanks SatuSuro 13:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Please do not add unreferenced information - and then revert it without comment. make sure you use edit summaries. Information without reliable sources will be removed. --Merbabu (talk) 13:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
A reminder not to add information without a reliable reference. Otherwise the info could be removed. --Merbabu (talk) 11:22, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I am referring to any article to which you add information without stating a reliable reference which seems to be most articles you work on.your contributions It's for the good of wikipedia. I don't add info without a reference. Anyway, it can't be too hard, surely you must have the reference available to add the info, right? regards --Merbabu (talk) 11:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I repeat - any article to which you add unreferenced information. Why should it only apply to only some articles? It's not hard. --Merbabu (talk) 11:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Please just read what I wrote above. It's there three times. Please show me one contribution that you've made that has a reference. --Merbabu (talk) 11:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] mohon maaf

mungkin tak ada bahasa inggeris? kalau itu - ini wikipedia inggeris - dan 'referencing' harus lebih jelas? SatuSuro 11:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

It would be good if you could engage in talk as there were some issues about what you edited :) SatuSuro 12:40, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Ta - good for yae to answer - just might need a small chat if we have another list of armory of indonesian thingoes - theres a small prob with methods of referencing - nothing too tragic but perhaps a diff way of saying where it all came from (not the aromory) but the info - cheers SatuSuro 00:01, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey dont want to move anything out - its just a way of sourcing info so it conforms more to the general rules of citation and all - hey i gotta get off right now - will get back to you later - or - i might try one or other of the lists later tonight my time to show you how id do it _ cheers SatuSuro 08:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] Och aye

Have a swim through this and learn by heart :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CITE - then any questions? ask me after that SatuSuro 10:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

well thats another story another day - :) SatuSuro 13:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Nah you gotta sign every time before i show you the link for that :) it'll take ages - youll need woolies and long socks and a good glass of milk for that one SatuSuro 13:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Dont tell me i told you a dangerous story - go to the main page - look for a link to commons - go there and start an account - and dont hold your breath - its cold in there SatuSuro 13:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

Saw at your user page and merapi - trust you watch the copyright issue very carefully and seriously otherwise they get shot out of the water - well done so far! SatuSuro 09:14, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] please

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hari_Yang_Cerah when you create something like that it is target for instant death - speedy delete - what you need to do is find an indonesian article - and copy the indonesian project header - tag - whatever you want to call it for the discussion

page - and put it there - also you must find abother indonesian group article that already exists - and get a category before you can say yogyakarta is south of merapi and magelang is west of merbabu' - that is in seconds flat! kalau saya mengerti dari foto rumah keluarga tak jauh dari salatiga?

project tags and catgeories missing are tell tale signs to speedy delete enthusiasts - any new article needs its category and its project tag as early as possible then you need some reference or citation to prove WP:N and WP:V - cheers SatuSuro 09:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems with Image:TNI-AU F-16.jpg

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[edit] Copyright problems with Image:F-16 TNI-AU Aerobatics.jpg

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[edit] Photos

Hi. The problem is not that they were taken by an Air Force official, but that there is a copyright message on the bottom of the website page the pictures came from. In normal military services, photos taken by military personnel on duty would be exempt from copyright, but the history of the Indonesian military shows it to be more of a mercenary/criminal organization prepared to make money any way it can, hence copyrighted photos. Davidelit (talk) 07:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi again. I think only admins can remove photos. It's a pity they have to go because the first one especially is a nice photo, but the law is the law. Regards Davidelit (talk) 08:55, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi again again. I am almost certain you can't use photos from the TNI-AD website. There is a copyright message at the bottom left. Regards Davidelit (talk) 10:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
And again. Take a look at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing#Indonesia on WikiCommons. If you're really bored, you can read the original law in Indonesian. Oh, and if you do decide to take photos by yourself, be careful. If you get shot, who will keep the Indonesian Air Force article up to date? Regards Davidelit (talk) 12:48, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
The answer to your question is "no" I think. See http://www.jedsite.info/content/toc.html Davidelit (talk) 05:31, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Flickr - yes. Look at the second item on the menu at the Commons page :-) Davidelit (talk) 13:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Skadron 1 logo.gif

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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Skadron 3 logo.gif

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[edit] Indonesian Air Force

He he. Well done on the argument about missiles on this page. I'm glad my photo was useful :-) Regards Davidelit (talk) 04:04, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

The Museum Dirgantara Mandala is near the airport. In fact I discovered it by accident a few years ago. I was flying from Yogya and when I looked out of the window at take-off, I saw these wings half covered by a building. I realized the wings must belong to a Tu-16, which meant there must be a museum. I asked at the hotel next time I was there, and got a taxi to take me. You will need to leave some form of ID at the main gate as it is on the Air Force base. It is before the airport as you head out of town. There are contact details and more photos here [1]. By the way, it closes at 1, so get there early. Regards Davidelit (talk) 07:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I have photos from 1995 of this museum if anyone is interested :) - but they will take time to upload :( SatuSuro 12:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Dont worry - I have photos of Yogya in 1985 :) SatuSuro 12:50, 12 May 2008 (UTC) It will take time - maybe not till mid-july before I load them up - it takes time to retrieve and scan and upload - SatuSuro 12:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I have no idea how many until i check in a months time SatuSuro 00:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reversing external links?

Why? surely just a rename to 'external links' would have been enough ?SatuSuro 07:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)