Talk:Heath Shuler

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Assessment Comments The following comments were left by the assessors: (edit · refresh) This a good, solid article, but needs some citation on his political career - a reader would need some verified quotes. Also, it's not enough to say he's a 'moderate Democrat' - give examples of his stances on policies (with independent quotes) and leave the reader to decide for themselves. Edofedinburgh 19:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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More information about this article... The following comments have been left for this page: This a good, solid article, but needs some citation on his political career - a reader would need some verified quotes. Also, it's not enough to say he's a 'moderate Democrat' - give examples of his stances on policies (with independent quotes) and leave the reader to decide for themselves. Edofedinburgh 19:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC) (edit)

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[edit] Questionable link

I'm unaware of Wikipedia's standards, but is it appropriate to link to stopshuler.com on Heath Shuler's Wikipedia entry? 23:59, 17 February 2006 {unsigned|68.39.174.238}}

It sounds like this has been resolved, but for general info: No, it's not. That's a blog; blogs are not considered verifiable sources (because anyone can write anything they want, basically) except for special cases (for example, TPMMuckracker.com employs at least two full-time journalists). So citing a blog as a source is unacceptable. If something is newsworthy, it will have been covered by a reputable source; if it can't be found in a reputable source, it doens't go in wikipedia, whether it's true or not (and how would one tell?) John Broughton 13:26, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Election

Why was the entry on Shuler's victory over Charles Taylor edited out? I live in NC, and I was watching Taylor when he rolled over on channel 13. It's official information that doesn't lean one way or the other. What gives?PratzStrike 04:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Degree?

I'm a tennessee graduate, and there has always been a substantial question among tennessee graduates as to whether Mr. Shuler actually ever received a college degree. The article, however, seems to indicate that he has. I would like to find out a definitive answer to this question. 04:11, 18 August 2006 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mel.b (talk • contribs)

I've edited the article to add degree information. That information comes from the Shuler campaign site,[1] which means it's not 100% guaranteed to be true. However, it would be incredibly stupid of his campaign to make such a claim if it were not true. Universities fully disclose whether a person was a student or not, and what degree they received and when; normally this only takes a phone call. (It's how potential employers verify applicant claims - there are thousands of calls every day, I'm sure.)

I know of one politician who got a lot of negative publicity - and a public reprimand - for claiming (for a while) a degree that she didn't have: Jean Schmidt. I note that as an example of how easy it is to check such claims, and the danger of making such a claim when it isn't true. John Broughton 13:26, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The "substantial question" about his graduation has been answered. He did indeed graduate from the university of tennessee with a degree in psychology in 2001. I'm new to wikipedia, so forgive me if this posting is not correctly signed.Mel.b 16:54, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moderate?

Shuler is a relatively moderate Democrat

What does this mean? I'm not American, so it's not at all obvious to me; could we please have some specific issues and where Mr Shuler stands on them? Loganberry (Talk) 12:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Heh; thanks to the anon editor who added just the details I was looking for one minute after I posted the above! Loganberry (Talk) 13:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I may very well be wrong, but my understanding was that he is quite conservative on social issues, but a pretty strong progressive on economic issues, like free trade, healthcare, etc. If this is accurate, I think the article should reflect where his conservatism lies, after all, William Jennings Bryant was a social conservative, but no one would call him "relatively moderate"Rbl 17:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football Career

I don't know anything about him as a politician, but the description of his NFL career, basically just attributes his lack of success in the NFL to how bad the teams he was on were. I don't know whether a PR guy wrote that, but it doesn't read like a description of an unsuccessful NFL career but rather an indictment of the teams. Someone who is more familiar with his football career might give a little more context.Mikelj 21:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)