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Contents 1 Movie company 2 Tasteless Trivia 3 Citizen Kane, docudrama? 4 Citizen Kane is not about Hearst 5 Wrongly stated? 6 Photos licensing wrongly stated? 7 Marion Davies should be included on this page 8 Hectometers

[edit] Movie company

If someone knows the name of Hearst's movie company, please add it to the article's third paragraph:

"...screening of one of the latest features of Hearst's movie studio."

Thanks! :-) —Frecklefoot 21:36, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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[edit] Tasteless Trivia

The IMDb has some trivia on "Citizen Kane." The movie, based on Hearst, states that "Rosebud" was Hearst's pet name for Marion Davies' clitoris. I don't know if this is true, and it's kind of tasteless, so I don't know whether or not to add it to the article. Anyone else? —Frecklefoot 21:36, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I was told that Rosebud was actually the name of his sled.

-tentnytoes

Um, that was the name of Charle Fosters Kane's sled (from Citizen Kane). <nowiki></nowiki>&mdash; [[User:Frecklefoot|Frecklefoot]] | [[User talk:Frecklefoot|Talk]] 02:04, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Citizen Kane, docudrama?

I can't believe whoever wrote the end referred to one of the greatest films of all time as a "docudrama"

[edit] Citizen Kane is not about Hearst

It's about lots of people, an amalgamation of folks like Hearst, Howard Hughes, and others. In the film, "Rosebud" is the name of the sled, which reminds Kane of his mother, who abandoned him at a young age. Whether or not Orson Welles used the name of Hearst's mistress's body part as the word in his film is debatable and not really encyclopedic (no one knows for sure.) I don't know how to change this in the entry, but Xanadu is not necessarily a "parody" of Hearst Castle. It may be its inspiration, or even just part of its inspiration, but to categorically say that Xanadu IS Hearst Castle is most likely wrong. Thor Rudebeck 19:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

WR Hearst thought that Citizen Kane was a direct attack on him, and refused to run ads of the movie in any of his papers, leading to it becoming a huge flop. But, whether or no CK was an analogy of Hearst, we should change the wording—"parody" is clearly wrong. — Frecklefoot | Talk 18:59, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wrongly stated?

i would say that xanadu from citizen kane is not a "parody" of the Hearst Castle, as the article in its current form states. BBnet3000 18:50, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photos licensing wrongly stated?

Shouldn't the images in the article to be subject to a different license since Hearst Castle is technically owned by the Hearst Corporation and any photography taken there are not to be used for any commercial purpose: Hearst Castle.Org - Kingxii 08:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I own the copyright on my photos unless I sign it away, and I didn't sign it away. The legal "reasoning" on that page is laughable; they can control who enters and with what equipment, but they can't just take ownership of creative work done by somebody while on the premises. What if I take a picture of a dandelion that happens to be growing there? For that matter, what if the spirit of the place moves me, and I write a poem while sitting on a bench? Do they magically acquire the copyright to that as well? That's why they have the whole bit about tripods and such; they know they don't have any legal basis to appropriate other people's work, so they fall back on closing the gate to photographers obviously laden down with equipment. (That's another way you know they're bluffing - wouldn't it be more lucrative to let the photographers in, then confiscate the images on the way out and sell them?) Stan 15:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marion Davies should be included on this page

Marion Davies should be included on this page. Her wikipedia entry states in part: "By the mid-1920s, however, Marion's career was often overshadowed by her relationship with married media mogul William Randolph Hearst and their fabulous social life at San Simeon and Ocean House in Santa Monica.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Davies —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nowax (talk • contribs) 19:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Hectometers

To make the tours more accessible to international visitors, the recorded tour guides on the bus ride from the visitor center to the castle give the areas of the castle grounds and Hearst's estate in "square hectometers", rather than the more common "square kilometers."

Is there evidence of this? And how exactly would expressing area in square hectometers make it more accessible to international visitors? --skew-t 21:04, 23 March 2007 (UTC)