Talk:Head Hunters

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[edit] Plagiarized

A lot of this seems plagiarized from the Allmusic review

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.214.175.2 (talk) 05:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] AMG Rating

Hi, I changed the rating from 3.5 stars to 5, as per AMG's page (click the reference link).

Thanks

[edit] Copyright infringement?

Publishing artwork in its entirety from the cover an an album is copyright infringement. There is no fair use here because the entire piece is displayed, and it is thus usable as..a pirate album cover. Also, track lists are copyrighted, for the same reasons.

If you don't agree with what is being done, please discuss it Wikipedia talk:Copyrights and Wikipedia talk:Image use policy. The album cover is being used under the fair use doctrine. It is a thumbnail, used in an educational and informative document; the cover could not be used as a suitable replacement for the original artwork because it is too small and too simplified to be expanded much larger. IANAL, but the only three Wikipedian lawyers to have opined on the subject of album covers (not in an official legal opinion) have agreed that they are acceptable to use, as have most of the Wikipedians who know much more about this than I. The track lists are not copyrightable -- a list of songs in the order in which they occur on a published album is reporting a fact, and is no more copyrightable than a list of books or wars or scenes in a movie. I don't think anybody has ever brought up track listings before, but if you think they are copyrighted, please discuss it at Wikipedia talk:Copyrights. Tuf-Kat 04:47, Feb 4, 2004 (UTC)

Please cite a US legal decision supporting your view that the use of thumbnail images of album artwork is not fair use. You raise several points which are worth responding to individually:

  • Displaying an entire piece does not make something infringing so long as that is all that's required for the purpose, which here is showing what the cover of the album looks like. See fair use and the reasoning in the full decision in Kelly v. Arriba Soft Corporation for an example of full commercial use of a thumbnail (reduced size) image which was fair use, not infringement. Part of the argument there revolved around the practicality of using the reduced size image as a replacement for the original. It's not practical to use a reduced size image to create a sufficiently high quality image to fool potential customers for the original album work into thinking that the copy is the original, so it's not a possible replacement of the original album. That someone might make infringing use of the work, somehow, does not mean that the use made here is infringing - each use must be considered on its own merits.
  • In the US, there is a mandatory royalty on all blank music CD disks (not computer CD blanks) and such copies are completely lawful, as are copies to tape, for the same reason. Using a reduced quality image on the case for such royalty-paid copies seems very likely to be fair use, since the royalty for the musical work has beeen paid.
  • It's a long standing principle of US law that simple lists arranged in obvious orders (like track titles in the order in which they appear) are not subject to copyright. See Feist v. Rural and the related cases mentioned in that article.
  • Given your claim that these things are infringing, I've listed this article at Wikipedia:Possible copyright infringements#February 4 on your behalf so that all of those who track copyright infringement issues will be aware of these issues and able to express a view. Jamesday 12:31, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Largest selling

The claim originates from the liner notes; http://reisio.com/largest_selling_jazz_album.png. ¦ Reisio 00:09, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wording

"the album is . . . a defining moment in the genre of jazz fusion" An album is not a moment. I'd fix it myself, but I am not sure whether the author intended "the album represents a defining moment in the history of jazz fusion" or "the album represents a defining work in the genre of jazz fusion" Once we've decided which of those is correct, we should also get rid of "the genre of", because (as "jazz fusion" can refer to nothing but the genre) it is dead weight. Cheers Kai 19:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Typical' Funk Track

The article sez: "There is far more rhythmic, harmonic and melodic freedom on the album than would be found on a 'typical' funk track, and therefore fully qualifying as Jazz" - does anyone want to back up this rather tendentious statement? If not, I'll make it a little less offensively elitist.

--Jim68000 11:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:HerbieHancock-Chameleon45-small.jpg

Image:HerbieHancock-Chameleon45-small.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

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BetacommandBot 04:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


The photo is being used with this article because the record in question is associated with the album that is the topic of the page.--Johmbolaya 17:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)