Talk:Head Boy

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Head Girl should continue to link because the "Head Boy" link is obviously equigender. Also, in response to the business about popular culture, an Angel episode references Wesley Wyndham-Pryce's career as a head boy at his school, making a sexual innuendo out of it.

Is there any point to the link Head Girl? It is currently just a redirect to Head Boy. smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 20:38, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree. I took the link away.Ptikobj 17:03, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Upper Canada College, Toronto

I believe that including this single case in the article does not add to the article. I feel that it does not satisy notability because whilst the school itself is notable, its policy on 'Head Boys' (or the equivalent) do not apply to all readers of an article; only those who want to find out about the school. The information would, perhaps, be more useful on its talk page. If we were to include information about every school that has a senior student, this would make the article unecessarily long, and so the notability and relevancy of UCC to this article must be asserted if it is to remain in the article. I do, however, believe that information about the link with the 'valedictorian' role in American schools should be retained, and that if generalised information about senior students throughout Canada could be found, this would be notable. Thanks ck lostsword | queta! | Suggestions? 16:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

To the contrary, the UCC scenario presents a case where the title Head Boy is used in a context different to that in the UK - thus it serves this article in the sense that it shows readers interested in the term Head Boy that there is not a singular use of the title, and offers information on the, so far, only case where it is used differently. Should there be more schools that use the title in a similar fashion to UCC, then the section in question should be re-written to be non-school specific; but so far, UCC is the only example. --G2bambino 16:16, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
In effect, though, this definition of the term Head Boy is closely related to the definitions of "valedictorian" and "chair of the students' union" (or similar), and a single example of these definitions would appear to be irrelevant to the article. A link with the terms themselves may be useful, but the example seems to be non-notable. Nevertheless, WP:Notability states that the topic is notable if it is "subject of multiple, non-trivial published works from sources that are reliable and independent of the subject itself and each other". In this case, it seems that it is notable to include the single case if the term 'Head Boy' with regard to UCC has been written about independently. ck lostsword|queta!|Suggestions? 16:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC) - (Incidentally, thank you for removing the key non-notable sentence from the article. ck lostsword 16:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC))
Is the term Head Boy itself the subject of any non-trivial published works? WP:Notability is simply a guideline and not a rule, therefore we can't take its terms too strictly. Perhaps UCC should not stand as an example for all Canadian schools (I've found that Crescent School has a Head Boy, though used in the same form as typical in the UK) - hence, perhaps the sectioning, or titles of sections are currently misleading. However, UCC still stands as the only place where Head Boy is used differently, and thus serves as an illustration of the different uses of the title. --G2bambino 16:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I wonder if it would be better to re-title and re-write the Canada section as follows:
==Other Commonwealth countries==
Public schools throughought the Commonwealth, outside of the United Kingdom, do not use the term Head Boy or Head Girl, instead electing a President of the student government. However, the title continues to be applied to the elected head of the student government at private schools.
Upper Canada College, a private school in Toronto, uses the title Head Boy differently, applying it to the student who has achieved the highest academic standing in their graduating class, similar in principal to the Valedictorian at an U.S. American high school. What would otherwise be known as a Head of School at an equivalent British institution is known at UCC as the Head Steward. --G2bambino 17:36, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Yep, that seems better. I'll include it now. ck lostsword|queta!|Suggestions? 21:01, 4 January 2007 (UTC)