Talk:Hawaiian baby woodrose

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The main body of the plant also contains small amounts of strychnine[citation needed], a potent toxin, but its presence is negligible in the seeds."

I've done an exaustive search on this plant for 15 years, and have over 100 journal articles on morning glory species alone. I have never seen any journal article claiming to have isolated strychnine from this plant. A google search does not produce any citation of this either. If the author does not cite his source in a week, I will change it.

This article is pathetic. If it isn't completely rewritten, it should be labeled as a shit article to warn people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.191.144 (talk) 07:21, 5 January 2008 (UTC) _________________________________________________________________________ Justification for the removal of the following addition by user 151.213.164.64.

Some in the culture believe that the U.S. Government has a hand
in the nauseous property of skin, although this is highly
disregarded as a rumor for lack of evidence.

I think there is no basis for that statement, as firstly, I have never heard such a rumour, even though I spend a lot of time reading Erowid and alt.drugs, and secondly, it is scientifically implausible for the US gorvernment to have added the nauseous property, since:

  • The same chamicals responsible for the nausea are present in the seeds of most fruit.
  • It is unclear whether such a genetic alteration is at all possible, and if it were, it would only be possible in the recent years, while the seeds have been nausesous in the 60s too.
  • It is absulutely implausible for all the strains of morning glories, which include H.B.Woodrose and other species containing LSA and having nauseus effect upon consumption, throuhgout the ENTIRE globe to be changed.
  • Also, the US government has better things to do than that (the effects of H.B.Woodrose seeds are neither particularly enjoyable nor often sought after)

Thus, it's hard to believe that any intelligent person would believe in such a rumour, and their opinion worth mentioning.

"The seeds of the plant are sometimes used as a legal hallucinogen."

Using the seeds as a halucinogen is not legal- at least not in the US. Although the seeds are legal to possess for gardening, the drug they contain, lysergic acid amide, is a schedule 3 controlled substance

[edit] Addiction risk? Side effects?

Well, first of all I think the majority of people searching "Hawaiian Baby Woodrose" are going to be curious teens looking to try this stuff. We should provide more non-judgmental information about its effects. It contains LSA, so is it potentially addictive? HBW is also known to cause severe nausea. What are more ways to prevent/cure that?

Wild Mountain Thyme 05:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

LSA isn't addictive at all. A way to prevent the nausea is to ground op the seeds and put it in a non-polar solvent like naptha, the will solve one of the chemicals blamed for giving nausau out of the seed pulp. The seeds must then be filtered out of the solvent letting the solvent evepurate. I am not a scientist and therefore I wont put potetialy lethal information on wiki. Maybe some-one with a better background can put something of this method here. 84.251.138.33 20:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

This article, especially in the "Chemistry" section, is reading dangerously similar to a "How to get fucked up on LSA" tutorial. ...Wiki does not equal Erowid, lets not forget that. 71.74.13.4 11:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

This reads way too much like a "how to" guide. Too much of the article is unencyclopedic. 203.16.41.5 06:44, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Some H.B.Woodrose seeds may not even be hallucinogenic or contain enough LSA to have an effect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.18.198.51 (talk) 22:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

There is next to no referencing of anything on this page, regardless of the accuracy of the material. In addition, it states that the cyanide produced endogenously from the cyanoglycosides is the main cause of nausea, which I'm certian has mroe to do with essential oil content. Halogenated 13:17, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

No, not a very good article yet, but needs to be here. I've added a 'citations missing' textbox --Anonymaus (talk) 17:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)