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[edit] NPOV

Moved from Wikipedia:Village pump

"Savage", POV?

Is the following, from "Hawaii County, Hawaii" a violation of NPOV, since it contains stereotypes?

Captain James Cook...was killed on Hawai`i....No one who visits it in the present day need be afraid of sharing the fate of poor Captain Cook; for the descendants of the savages who, in his time, inhabited the island, have now, through the labours of Christian missionaries, become a very decent sort of quiet, well-behaved Christian people.

--Menchi 04:40 Apr 7, 2003 (UTC)

Yep, I have removed it. Mucho graciasTuf-Kat

Many thanks to Menchi for bringing this to attention. I removed:

No one who visits it in the present day need be afraid of sharing the fate of poor Captain Cook; for the descendants of the savages who, in his time, inhabited the island, have now, through the labours of Christian missionaries, become a very decent sort of quiet, well-behaved Christian people.

Because, according to my POV, the fact that Hawaiians are quiet, well-behaved and Christian (apparently, absolutely all of them) is a bad thing. I think they should be louder, rowdier and adopt whichever religion (though preferably none) gives them peace of mind. My friend Racist Joe is still terrified of Hawaiians because he thinks they're cannibals. Tuf-Kat

I presume that quote was being ironic. It certainly gave me a laugh. Maybe we should create a special POV page for nutty but comic comments like this one. STÓD/ÉÍRE 05:11 Apr 7, 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Sugar Town Foodscapes
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  • JHU: Raising cane, scientifically

Original Broadcast Date: 1952 September 1

1 digital betacam videocassette (30 min.) : sd., b&w ; 1/2 in.

1 VHS videocassette (30 min.) : sd., b&w ; 1/2 in.

[edit] Abstract

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Mr. Miller, assistant vice president of the Hawaiian Suger Planters Association, describes Hawaii's largest industry, sugar production. He shows photos of the process, from planting, cultivation, harvesting, and finally processing at the C & H Refinery in Crockett, California.

A film details the work of the genetic laboratory in Hawaii that cross-breeds canes from countries around the world in order to create new hybrids that will be more resistant to disease and insect pests and produce a higher yield of sugar.

Subjects Sugarcane -- Hawaii

Sugarcane -- Breeding

Sugarcane industry -- Hawaii

Credits Host : Lynn Poole

Guest : Slator M. Miller

Narrator : Joel Chaseman

Producer : Lynn Poole

Asst. Producer : Robert Fenwick

Director : Paul Kane

Asst. Director : Ed Sarrow

Art Director : Barry Mansfield
RJBurkhart 04:07, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More Eco-History Trails & Tales

Softcover ISBN 0-9705787-1-7
The Big Island's Hamakua Coast was the classic plantation community

[edit] SUGAR TOWN

Life on the Plantation - in an Era When Cane Was King

The Big Island's Hilo Coast was the classic plantation community with brawny mills, tidy camps and broad fields of billowing green. A boy could ride the flumes, watch the Sunday cockfights or spend his pennies at the general store. And a man could make an honest living in the green rows of cane or the brawny, bustling sugar mills. Scotch Kurisu was born into this world and never left, working his way from field hand to a position on the board of directors. Sugar Town is his own story -- a broad overview peppered with fascinating anecdotes and more than 70 archival photos. Its a story that helps preserve the spirit of a bygone era.
RJBurkhart 13:51, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removing okinas

The conventional name of this county appears to be "Hawaii County" not "Hawaiʻi County". The official website [1], the US Census Bureau [2], and the major media listed in the article (the Hawaii Tribune-Herald [3] and West Hawaii Today [4]) all do not use the okina. When one googles "Hawai'i County" (57,300 hits [5]), google asks if you actually meant "Hawaii County" (322,000 hits [6]). As a result of this evidence, I've removed the okina from the intro paragraph etc.Erudy 16:36, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Odd as it seems to me, many Hawaii articles use okinas. I've reverted your changes, simply because it seems to be more in line for similar articles; you'd do better to bring this up at the Hawaii Wikiproject. Nyttend 17:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, we've been discussing this on the WikiProject page. (including keeping the okina out of titles of articles) However, not a ton of people have commented so far. --Ali'i 15:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I have changed over to the english spelling of Hawaii. Hawaiian government pages (including the county page) only occasionally use the Hawaiian Language spelling. The Hawaiian spelling is rarely used on the mainland, and virtualy unknown in other english speaking countries Mistermistertee (talk) 16:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

It would appear that Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawaii/Manual of Style indicates otherwise. --Kralizec! (talk) 05:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)