Talk:Hate Me
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[edit] edit removing wrong song meaning
"Hate Me" (and in fact much of the album "Foiled") is about a failed relationship of the lead singer. In early 2006, when the album and single were first released, KDGE 102.1 The Edge in Dallas, Texas aired an interview with him in which he discussed the motivation for the album and the song. The song (and, again, much of the album) is to an ex-girlfriend, not the mother (although the mother does leave a message for the son at the beginning of the song). The interview clarified that he was living in California at the time (far from his hometown and his mother in Texas) and going through a very rough time with drugs, alcohol and the relationship. His mother was just calling to check up on him. I have not seen the video, so I don't know what might be there, but I am positive that the song is about a relationship. For further verification, please see Blue October's MySpace page
www.myspace.com/blueoctober
where the band writes
Its about a boy whos mother died, and the only thing he has left of her is the answering machine. http://www.vh1.com/vspot/player.jhtml?id=1547130&launchedFrom=/artists/az/blue_october_rock_/videos.jhtml Watch and learn, before you type your opinions.
That Blue October hasnt followed the ordinary path to success is clear from the first single from Foiled, Hate Me, a song that recalls such aching rock anthems as Joy Divisions Love Will Tear Us Apart or Janes Addictions Jane Says for songwriter Justin Furstenfelds unflinching look at himself. Its a song portraying a mans selfishness in a relationship, then coming to terms with it, and admitting the mistakes.
Lastly, that section of the page was written in a very un-encyclopedic manner. But I removed it mostly to get rid of the wrong information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.182.97.121 (talk) 05:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Lyric Analysis Section
I've removed the lyric analysis section and put it here because it really smacks of original research and inappropriate tone. It was also tagged for POV. If it can be re-written to conform to Wikipedia's policies, and reference verifiable sources, then of course please re-add it.--Aervanath's signature is boring 19:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Synopsis of the lyrics
Based on the music and song lyrics alone, radio listeners would probably not make the mother-son connection that the video portrays. The radio-edit cuts out some of the answering machine lead-in to the song contained on the CD track and in the video.
The video fills in many of the gaps. However, if the video were never viewed by a listener, the music and song lyrics alone, through the radio-edit, strongly suggest the original intent: a man who inflicted deep emotional damage on his ex-girlfriend through his own self-destructive patterns. Possibly his alcoholism or substance abuse resulted in a selfish/hurtful behavior like abuse, cheating or something of that nature.
The lyrics further imply that an overwhelming sense of guilt for the pain his destructive behavior caused, and his possible inability to currently control his tendencies, are causing him to remove himself from her life, so as to protect her from further emotional damage.
Other implications include a thank you when looking back at all of the care given to him by her (similar to that in the video from his mother) as well as the selfless (in his own way) message that it is ok to "hate me" for all of the pain he's caused.
There may be a connection to their previous single, "Calling You". In the beginning, of the un-edited version, right before the answering machine lead-in there is a voice-over reciting an excerpt from the song: "If you're sleeping are you dreaming, if you're dreaming are you dreaming of me? I can't believe you actually picked me."
The lyrics "Hate me today...Hate me in ways hard to swallow" implies that he wants his sympathy of the one he loved, as to feel sorry for him.
| “ | If you're sleeping are you dreaming If you're dreaming are you dreaming of me? |
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Like "Hate Me", "Calling You" also implies a relationship between the singer and his significant other.
This reflects the song's main-stream radio acceptance and success as many modern rock and top 40 hits lyrically are about love's watered down or raw (like these lyrics) emotion.
From the Blue October Lyrics (http://www.geocities.com/blueoctoberlyrics/) web-site:
| “ | Basically, I was in L.A. for awhile, and going through some stuff...and my mom hadn't heard from me for three or four months, and she was just kinda getting worried about me and checking into see if I had re-upped all my medication. Which I hadn't. And she probably knew that, cause of mom's intuition, you know...they always know when something's wrong. And I actually realized at the beginning of that song that it wasn't just a song about relationships anymore, it was more of a song about a universal theme about not forgetting who's important to you, and things like that...so I wanted to add my mom into the beginning of that just cause you only get one chance at having a great relationship with everybody you're surrounded with. | ” |
(Justin - 04-04-06)\
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