Template talk:HasidicDynasties

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[edit] Origins of this template

This template was created as a result of onging discussions at Talk:List of Hasidic dynasties and because of questions that arose in mediation at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-04-29 Mezhbizh (Hasidic dynasty) about what defines a Hasidic dynasty. The template was based on the initial outline stated at the top of the page at List of Hasidic dynasties:

Note: A Hasidic dynasty usually has some or all of the following characteristics:
  1. It was originally founded by an outstanding spiritual leader, often known as an ADMOR (abbreviation for ADoneinu MOReinu veRabeinu ("our master, our teacher and our rabbi") or simply as Rebbe (or "the Rebbe") and at times called "The Ruv" ("the rabbi") and sometimes referred to in English as a "Grand Rabbi";
  2. It usually continues beyond the initial leader's lifetime by succession (usually by a selected member or family descendant);
  3. It is often named after a key town in Eastern Europe where the founder may have been born or lived, or where the group began to grow and flourish;
  4. It has had (or once had) followers who, through time, continue following successive leaders (rebbes) or may even continue as a group without one leader by following the precepts of a deceased leader.

Helpful input is welcome. IZAK 04:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

It looks fine. --Smokizzy (talk) 21:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

It looks good, but the first group should be listed as Podolia- Ukraine, not Russia. --Jayrav 21:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

The previous comment refers to {{Hasidic dynasties}}. --Redaktor 22:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

:It was in the Russian Empire. Podolia maybe (certainly not Ukraine, which did not yet exist), but chasidim do refer to these dynasties as 'Russian'. --Redaktor 22:34, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name

I think this template should be moved to {{Hasidic dynasty}}, or something else, and this page redirected to {{Hasidic dynasties}}. The names are just too similar. --Eliyak TยทC 03:52, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Maybe this template should be deleted. I cannot see why it needs to be transcluded to every dynasty article. --Redaktor 05:52, 13 July 2007 (UTC)