Talk:Hash House Harriers

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[edit] United States Links

With the enormous list of hash houses within the United States, I'm suggesting a simple link to possibly http://www.half-mind.com/Contacts/usa_hash.htm [1] (Half Mind) which to me has the most comprehensive list out there, I could be wrong. I've cleaned up the Hash House names and changed them to their corresponding cities instead since for example, the Washington D.C. area alone has nine kennels. ~~Joshuawilliamson 14:46, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. with so many, a simple link to find the local kennels would be best, though some of the major groups such as DC, New Orleans, San Diego, etc might be left if they have a particularly well done and informative website. I've just added quite a bit of info about running trail and some of the traditions itself that I hope will help people understand the organization -mblitch
I've run into the issue of, for example Philadelphia, they have as far as I can tell, six kennels, but don't have one web site that I can find that links them all together besides their Penn State map, or displays just the Philadelphia one's, one that shows them all. So, someone from the "Ben Franklin mob" kennel is wanting to be represented on Wiki, understandably so, but are digressing from the other naming conventions by city. We all have ridiculously named Kennels(nothing wrong with that), but to name each one individually on the main Wiki page would take 20 pages. Thanks for your work. I've put the word out to some of my message boards for people to put input on this.~~Joshuawilliamson 11:46,EST 19 April 2006 (UTC)
If any hashes have their own Wikipedia pages, shouldn't we just have a separate page with a List of Hash Groups and have no external links to individual hashes, not even DC or San Diego. Aardhart 22:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hash club

Should Hash club redirect here? Aardhart 22:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

"With over 1700 groups in every major city in the world, it is now easier than ever for you to find fun, trail, and friendship where you live."

"Such problems can occur due to emergency calls made by the uninitiated that fail to use logic or knowledge when witnessing the activity. Police were once even called by someone claiming that people were running by and throwing cocaine on the ground!"

The above and other language in this article is both POV and unencylopedic. This article may need to be overhauled. I have deleted the above text, however I am neither knowledgeable nor interested in this subject, so I will leave major edits to other users. Cold Water 02:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] More on Neutrality

Descriptive text following certain links under Further Reading and International HHH Club Contact Information ("International Edition"; "Worldwide Hashing Information Portal") are promotional advertising and should be deleted. If no one objects, I will revisit the entry in a couple of days and delete the descriptive text.

The "Hare of the Dog" link (under Further Reading) connects to an advertising site, not a content site, and is of no use to anyone looking for freely available information on the Hash House Harriers. I have deleted this link.

Paul woodford 05:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


I revisited the entry this morning and removed the advertising.

Paul woodford 15:23, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV

Hash Club should be removed or linked to Hash House Harriers. It appears only one author wrote the Hash Club. Cold Water, what changed is off of the subject and I agree unencyclopedic even though what really is. Joshuawilliamson 11:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)


"In Tokyo the hare on a Harriettes run was bundled in to a big black car by plain clothes officers. Several hours later he was found with a broom and pan sweeping up all the flour while guarded by two police officers" - this paragraph seems to have little to do with the impact of the 9/11 attacks

I feel there is a lot more that can be added to this page, the early history of the hash in Kuala Lumpur is, as far as I can see, inaccurate, and the popularity of the hash has not increased because of the Internet, but by regional and international publications sucb as Nagic's Harrier International, Robo's UK publication, Global Trash, and Higgins European magazine


I think the whole section of 'Impact of 911 attacks' should be removed. While a nice side note for some general hash knowledge, it really doesn't provide any critical or significant knowledge. One can mention in another section how some hashes use colored chalk or other products besides white flour due to security concerns in certain areas of the world/United States after anthrax scares in 2001. That would take a single sentence and make the readability much better. I also removed the section regarding 'how to get started' since the syntax and grammar were poor and difficult to read. Please take the time to critically go over what you write. Entire sections really are not needed when one or two sentences can convey the same information. Regarding the 'popularity of the hash and the internet', something like that seems quite subjective, and thus eligible for removal. I learned about hashing through a friend, but would likely not be nearly as involved if not through Internet lists and sites, however it doesn't men the internet itself made it more popular any more than magazines subscriptions for people (that are probably already likely hashers) makes a difference in itself. I'm going to remove that section and add something to share the same information. This article doesn't really benefit from sharing personal stories such as arguing with the police or being forced to clean up ones own trail. Aspects such as that are best shared on discussion forums and not encyclopedic entries. -mblitch

[edit] HHH Subject Too large for a Small Article with Limited Links

I believe this article has done a fairly good job, making a small article taking bits and pieces from various sites. However, trying to keep up with links of clubs would be a pretty impossible job here. I track over 1700 clubs and the clubs themselves put in 200-300 corrections a month. Since my site is already linked, as well as other directory sites, that should be sufficient. In my previous post here, I did not understand the concept that anyone can change it. On that basis, if hashes have a complaint, like with my own directory, they can add their info or correct it. Wierd letting a bunch of drunken hashers loose on info like this - you never know what it will turn out like. Stray Dog, webmaster http://www.gthhh.com, editor of Global Trash.

I think your suggestion to dump this page, and merely link to yours, is utterly insane.

[edit] Removal of individual Hashes, leaving Larger H3 Sites linking

If any hashes have their own Wikipedia pages, shouldn't we just have a separate page with a List of Hash Groups and have no external links to individual hashes, not even DC or San Diego. Aardhart 22:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Aardhart, I think we're thinking along the same lines. There are indeed over a thousand clubs out there and to place them all on one Wikipedia page would be insane. A few links to "other" web sites (not just one) would probably be best. Right now we're keeping it to States and cities, but could get out of hand if more edit's happen. Anyone have a better idea?

While on the one hand I would like to see my local hash have its own Wikipedia page I can also see how the details relating to the founding and operation of an individual hash would be of interest to too few people to justify a page. I’m inclined to just post such a history to my own hash’s site rather than take up Wikipedia space with it. But then again I don’t know much about anything. -Farakon 23:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Exact same external URL addresses frequently appear in this article. It's doubtful how useful this redundancy is for the reader. Here's a list of external URLs included in this article:

[...list abbreviated (--Tokek 02:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC))...]

Of these links, the following appear at least twice (ignoring trailing slash differences):

[...list abbreviated (--Tokek 02:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC))...]

Just maybe, something like 99% of the external links need to go. I wouldn't be surprised if this article violates one or more Wikipedia guidelines as it currently stands. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing H3 external links (including directory sites) limited to footnotes only (within <ref> tags). —Tokek 16:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I've removed all but four, as per Wikipedia is not a mirror or a repository of links and WP:EL. ShakingSpirittalk 16:29, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed; there seems little reason to add any more links without specific need. Poeple can use the links to find the group they want in the geographical location that is appropriate. I also removed the 'podcast' link since that site is no longer active. (mblitch)

[edit] Tone

I didn't add that particular cleanup tag, but I do see what the editor who did meant. At times this article reads more like an "Aren't HHH fun guys?" site than anything else. There's plenty of interest here, and the subject is clearly notable, but - for example - the "How it is done" section seems almost ridiculously detailed for a general encyclopedia. Some inline referencing would be useful, too. Loganberry (Talk) 00:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Hash and Sex

I am not sure whether there may be some US-prudish Wikipedia rule that forbids it but writing about the Hash without once mentioning its strong sexual connotations seems a bit strange. I'd estimate that well over half of all "hash names" contain strong sexual connotations referring to porn, blowjobs, sexual organs etc., many of the rest refer to something anal and a few are neutral. Quite a few customs include nudity and exhibitionism (so called "tittie checks", naked midnight runs, pulling down pants when live hares are caught etc.). On Hash weekend events participants are typically handed condoms in their welcome pack and for all I can tell only half the talk is only talk - the social side of Hash weekends is also about getting a chance to uncomplicated sex. Is there some policy behind leaving all this out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.202.106.187 (talk) 07:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)