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[edit] Bacterial Growth

Hey Harland1; Thanks for trying to suppress the vandals on Bacterial Growth. Unfortunately, you only reverted one of something like 7 consecutive vandalisms by some punks at, I think, Penn State U. and Ferris State U. Anyway, I know you're in the wild wild west, trying to clean up all the vandalism quick - perhaps with a bot? - but going back only one revert in a string doesn't really get us where we want to be. =/ Anyway, I don't have the power to do multi-rollback (dunno if you do), so I have to do it the slow way. Bckirkup (talk) 18:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks! I was hoping to get it to a good article status, but I’m not sure how to get it to be reviewed. Disco dog23 (talk) 12:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mary Tanner

Even a cursory glance around the web would have shown you that this article is not a hoax! Paste (talk) 19:12, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

• Done! Paste (talk) 19:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Thanks for the requested page deletion on Nelson, (Sarcasm incase your not familiar with it) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Police,Mad,Jack (talk • contribs) 19:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Catherine Lip declined speedy

Hello, Harland. I declined the speedy deletion of this as it asserts notability as a chess champion. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 14:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA comment

Just as a heads-up, I've reverted your comment here as the RfA was already closed. You may not have noticed as such (my close and your edit were close together), so I'm not accusing you of malice or inappropriate behaviour or anything like that :) Just a courtesy note. Cheers, Daniel 10:38, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

In a further note, this wasn't helpful at all. Please refrain from calling the other editor or his RfA "rubbish" and contribute in a civil manner. --— DarkFalls ^talk 10:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed nearly unanimously with 46 support, 1 oppose, and 0 neutral. Thanks for supporting me!

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[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXII (December 2007)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXII (December 2007)
Project news The Intelligence task force has been created. The contest department has completed its ninth month of competition. The top scorer this month is Blnguyen, with 22 points, followed by Dreamafter, with 8 points, and Redmarkviolinist, with 6 points. Blnguyen also remains the overall leader, with 162 points in total. All project members are encouraged to submit the articles they're working on as entries. Help with converting deprecated infoboxes is needed; any assistance is welcome! {{WPMILHIST}} now supports an explicit tag (class=DAB) for marking disambiguation pages.	Articles of note New featured articles: Battle of Albuera Battle of Dyrrhachium (1081) Battle of the Gebora Constantine II of Scotland Francis Harvey Vasa (ship) Wulfhere of Mercia New A-Class articles: 1962 South Vietnamese Presidential Palace bombing Evacuation of East Prussia
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[edit] RfA Thanks

Dear Harland1, Thank you for voting in my RfA, which closed successfully with 34 support, 2 oppose, and 0 neutral. I appreciate your support! I promise I will wield the mop wisely, and do my best to improve Wikipedia. -- AKeen (talk) 15:09, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Revert?

Hi there, I just noticed that you made a revert to a couple images that I added to a user's page by invitation. Reason?--Pgagnon999 (talk) 15:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

"Harland": Thanks for your advice - I thought I was only on a test page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Majortom64 (talk • contribs) 16:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

How do I undo the previous text edits on the test page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Majortom64 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Discussion regarding Category:Wikipedia users open to trout slapping

Harland1, a discussion to determine consensus regarding the possible deletion or renaming of Category:Wikipedia users open to trout slapping is ongoing at user categories for discussion. Feel free to comment there. Regards, Iamunknown 23:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Spanpo

Can you explain further why User:Spanpo is a Jack.Hartford sock puppet at your SSP report, Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Jack.Hartford? Jehochman ^Talk 16:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Military history WikiProject coordinator election

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[edit] RFA thanks

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Thanks for supporting me! My RfA passed with a final tally of 5 neutrals, 1 oppose and 148 supports, a turnout I couldn't have dreamed of. I'm going to do everything I can to help out the community, help with sysop tasks, and of course, contribute to the encyclopedia. If you ever need a hand with something, feel free to give a shout! Cheers! Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 17:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Good luck! Harland1 (^t/_c) 18:36, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Thank you

		Milhist Coordinator elections
		Thank you very much for your support in the recent Military history Wikiproject elections. I went into it expecting to just keep my seat and was astonished to end up with the lead role. I anticipate a rather busy six months :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 13:30, 29 February 2008 (UTC) Haut-Koeningsbourg castle, Alsace.

Good luck!. Harland1 (^t/_c) 15:58, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] German and UK economies

I've read your recent edits on Europe's talk page. You reacted affirmative to a statement that the two mentioned economies are of similar size. Is this really your opinion. Perhaps you've simply confused the statement with the recent changes in the article itself, where it is about the economic sizes of the UK and France respectively. Otherwise, I can easily provide you abundant sources show a distinct gap between Germany's economic volume and that of the UK. This gap is of the order of 30% !! Tomeasy (talk) 15:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Europe rv

Sorry for reverting your edit. To me it looked like a disguised deletion of information. You commented that you had added a ref and then I saw that one piece of information was taken out without substitution. In addition to that the ref did not work. So I was simply not convinced that this edit served any good. You are right, I did not look into Mathsci's talk page to see that you two had come to an agreement and I also did not open a discussion before reverting. Perhaps, it would have been a good idea for the comment to hint on your agreement, rather than doing as if only a ref was added. My apologies again for acting too swift. Tomeasy (talk) 12:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind understanding. I will try to step more gently in the future. Tomeasy (talk) 16:48, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I avoided making a statement on this, because I am currently in another difficult issue on the Europe article, which has to with the countries mentioned in the list. As you can imagine this is a Gordian knot and takes a lot of time, but since you've asked me...

What I find the most important with respect to economy sizes in Europe is that the UK, France and also Italy have almost identical volumes. Whoever is placed number 1 among these three today might be number 3 in 5 years. Apparently, France and the UK have just swapped their positions, mainly due to the strong Euro. Actually, I find this a very interesting piece of information, because (as Mathsci pointed out) it shows how close they are. Now Matsci's conclusion was to leave it out, exacly for this reason; to make the content less volatile to day-to-day fluctuations. However, we want to state facts here, i.e. number one Germany, number two ... In addition to that these facts should be as recent as possible. The source, FT, is absolutely reputable and it adds exactly the kind of information that I would seek to convey, that a differentiated ranking between France and the UK is not reasonable. Or to say the least, that it depends on day-to-day fluctuations. That's also why I did not revert back after recognizing that I should not have done it at first. I leave it up to you. You thought much longer about it than I. Tomeasy (talk) 17:34, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not altogether sure that I should be the one to decide as a resident of the UK I am not afraid of that. As a good wikipedian, I expect you to seek for a neutral, reasonable and interesting message and I am sure you are doing that. Wasn't it you who originally introduced this FT citation. If you satisfied your own concerns than you would not have done so, since according to UK POV this might make their star shine less. No, I have the feeling we agree that these are not the aspects that interest us.

You're right, the gap between Italy and the others is significantly bigger (about 20%) than between the UK and France. But who knows in 5 years. Anyways, I do not want to complicate things here and it's not my intention to bring Italy into the text.

Was that too wordy? How did you know that? I really think so :-) Obviously, I appreciate your strive for an equilibrated statement, but why does the Dollar come into play here. If the Euro rises against the Pound, obviously the Euro-Dollar ratio raises compared to the Pound-Dollar ratio. I would also mention the UK volume earlier. So, if I may have a try on your draft: The United Kingdom comprises the region's second largest national economy ($2.756 trillion (2007 est.)) and the fifth largest globally.[1] However, the economy of France is of a very similar size ($2.515 trillion (2007 est.)). As recently, the Euro has been strong against the Pound the volume of the French economy has surpassed the volume of the UK economy (ref to FT).

Reading your Euro-Dollar-Pound formulation once again. I am not quite sure if we are on common grounds on how exchange rates function. Clearly, if the UK economy is now smaller in size than the French one, this is the case for any currency. Suppose that in the future the Pound raises again against the Euro (while both economies stagnate) such that UK's size surpasses France's size once again, then (again) this is the case independent from the currency you use for measuring the size. In other words, rankings do not depend on the measuring currencies [unit], but in the course of time well on the exchange rates. Perhaps it was just a misunderstanding. If so, I hope you do not mind getting explained what was already known to you Tomeasy (talk) 20:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Apologies for being ignorant. No apologies necessary. I am slightly confused by your argument. Yes, I think I did not put it as clear as it is. Ok, for simplicity let's stick to the current situation. The Pound weakens against the Euro and strengthens against the Dollar. Now what I am trying to explain is that from these two statements it already follows that the Euro strengthens against the Dollar. The latter statement is not independent from the two earlier ones. With respect to your draft this means that you can save many words and, moreover, I think you've had a wrong understanding. Ok, this last statement might be controversial. Therefore let me elaborate on what I think you've misunderstood. My apologies, if I am wrong:

You wrote And as recently the Euro has been strong against the Pound the UK economy when compared by Pound to Euro as opposed to Euro to Dollar and pound to Dollar is worth less than that of France. But, it is also true that the UK economy is worth less than the French when compared by Pound to Dollar and Euro to Dollar respectively, i.e. when economical volume is measured in Dollar. The condition you introduce is absolutely not a condition for the basic statement. As I stated earlier, if one economy has a larger volume now, then this is the case independent of the currencies underlying this measurement. So, your statement should be simply And as recently the Euro has been strong against the Pound the UK economy [...] is worth less than that of France.Tomeasy (talk) 13:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

In deed this is not the case. However, I have never claimed so. Please cite with more care. What I said is that from the two statements: (1) Pound weakens against Euro and (2) Pound strengthens against Dollar, a third statement can be derived, which is not independent from two earlier ones: (3) The Euro strengthens against the Dollar. Please make sure you observe the difference between this and your citation. I would like to motivate you to understand this, since it makes life much simpler than the ideas that you've had previously. I think you imagined the whole stuff to be very complex and then you tried to formulate precisely. Where it went wrong is that, actually, it is not a complex issue. Could I help?

Do you understand now, why the ranking of economy sizes is independent from the currency used to measure the volume? I have just imagined a nice analogy. I hope you like it: If you are taller than I, then this is independent whether we measure height in feet or meters. Now, you may wonder, why then the whole fuzz about France overtaking the UK due to exchange rate changes. Therefore, if you allow, I have to strain the analogy a little bit. Imagine you are 6 ft tall, no matter what the length of a feet is in meters and I am 1.8 m tall. Imagine further that the exchange rate between feet and meter is changing daily. Now, you will be taller than I as long as the foot is stronger than 0.3 m. :-))) It would make me really glad, if I had helped you with this example. Please, hit me back in any case.Tomeasy (talk) 15:16, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

BTW, I like your edit on the page very much. Now, we are stating that according to all annually updated sources the UK economy is larger the French one. However, in addition to that the reader also gets a feeling how close the two are, because the mere fluctuation of the exchange rate has recently made the two swap positions. Now, let's just hope Mathsci will also like it, when he bumps into it again. As I understood your communication with him, he was not very much inclined to the FT ref. Tomeasy (talk) 16:33, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXIV (February 2008)

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Project news The fifth project coordinator election has now concluded. Roger Davies has been elected to serve as the project's Lead Coordinator, and Blnguyen, Eurocopter tigre, Kyriakos, LordAmeth, Nick Dowling, TomStar81, Wandalstouring, and Woody will occupy the eight Assistant Coordinator positions. Congratulations to the winners, and thank you to everyone who participated! In the simultaneous referendum on project organization, you voted almost unanimously for a primus inter pares structure. As a tangible reflection of this, Assistant Coordinators are now known as Coordinators. The contest department has completed its eleventh month of competition, which saw 10 entries. The top scorer this month is Dreamafter, with 28 points, followed by Smsarmad, with 13 points, with Blnguyen, Ed! and jwillbur also fielding entries. Blnguyen remains the overall leader, with 188 points in total. You are encouraged to submit articles you're working on as entries. The National militaries task force has been created. A new automatically-generated clean-up list is available to track articles that have various clean-up tags applied to them. A new logistics department has been created. The aim is to provide a pool of useful article creation skills that anyone can draw on. These include copy-editing, photograph retouching, and reference material sourcing. If you can contribute, please do so.	Articles of note New featured articles: 2007 United States Air Force nuclear weapons incident Carlson's patrol Coenwulf of Mercia Glorious First of June Koli Point action Operation Camargue New featured lists: List of Victoria Cross recipients by nationality New A-Class articles: 51st Army (Soviet Union) Indonesian occupation of East Timor (1975-1999) Le Paradis massacre Military of East Timor USS Bridgeport (AD-10)
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[edit] 10th Cavalry Regiment (United States)

No, your standards are not too high. It fails the citations criteria, which is a pity because it's otherwise excellent. Otherwise all going well ? --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 13:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Don't bother to :) Leave the checklist alone for something that short :) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 20:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2007 Chinese anti-satellite missile test

I noticed you rated the article B-class. I just wanted to know one thing that this article has been rated start class in other project. But you rated B-class. What are the criteria for B-class. I am not aware of it. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 17:55, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 18:11, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re BCAD

No, it doesn't :) What it means is that there's a general Tag & Assess (which Worklist B is really a part of) starting mid-April and we'd like to get the B-class articles completely finished by then. Do you fancy doing some on Worklist A? If so, I'll see if some can be freed up for you. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 16:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

It all carries awards and the work being done now on B is simply work that would need doing in a month or so anyway. So you're helping get the overall size of the main T&A drive down. :) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 17:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

At time of writing, an A list range is free. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 20:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry about keeping both frankly. You won't be the only one with two on the go :) That bit was only there anyway to stop people reserving several ranges when we just had the A list. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 21:59, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your participation!

Hello, and thanks for your participation in my recent RFA! The final result was 61/0/3, so I've been issued the mop. While I wasn't able to win you over to support in the actual RFA, I hope that I'll be able to do so now that I'm an admin. Thanks again for taking the time to leave a comment! —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 07:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: BCAD - Albert, Duke of Saxony

I considered that family chart as a diagram and so I marked it meeting that supporting material criteria. --SMS ^Talk 19:14, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

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If you live in the Southern Hemisphere and are entering the season of Autumn not Spring then I wish you a happy First Day of Autumn 2008!

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[edit] Russian submarine Kursk explosion

I noticed you assessed the article start class. But in other project, it is rated B-class. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 19:46, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Royal Australian Navy Submarine Service

Hi, you failed Royal Australian Navy Submarine Service for B-class as it doesn't have enough citations. I wrote most of the article, and the current cites do cover all points. Could you please flag the areas which you think need specific cites? thanks, --Nick Dowling (talk) 23:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

No worries. I probably should add some more specific cites to that article anyway. --Nick Dowling (talk) 09:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Judgement

(Replying here since I dislike cluttering RFAs with excessive threaded conversation.) A casual glance at the opposes should be more than enough to demonstrate MFC's poor judgement and childishness. If it's not, check out the activities at User:Sharkface217/Award Center sometime. It's a bunch of kids patting each other on the back over how many vandals they've warned- and then making lots of edits talking about the awards they give each other. Sure, dealing with vandals is necessary, but I distrust anyone who appears to enjoy it too much. Making it more work than it needs to be (i.e. by keeping elaborate score) shows foolishness. The absolute best is this edit, where MFC is seen giving out a barnstar.. as an award to someone for giving out lots of barnstars. Yes, these may be subtle things, and it's true that they're not directly harmful. But to me these things indicate a extremely misguided mindset for an editor to have. I realize it's always tricky trying to guess what's in someone's head, but I've seen enough here to make what I consider an educated guess. He doesn't even realize his own inexperience- he claims to be an experienced editor, looking to "adopt" others. This overestimating of his own knowhow combined with his apparent great emphasis on getting recognized for his achievements worry me. He's proud, and confident.. and clueless. Not a good combination. Anyway, when I sum it all up.. do I see a kid with exceptional wisdom and maturity? No, I see a kid who acts just like a kid. Friday (talk) 14:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] RE:Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/CWY2190

Yes. I had actually opposed for the other reason. Then when i reviewed CWY's user page, i found the userbox stating their age. As i said, if this RfA fails and the user trys again when their a little older. I will then support. Cheers! :-) TheProf | Talk 17:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Alaska in Winter

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[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXV (March 2008)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXV (March 2008)
Project news The Crusades task force has been created. The main project talk page is now automatically archived; MiszaBot II will archive any sections that have had no comments for 21 days. The contest department has completed its twelth month of competition, which saw 13 entries. The top scorer this month is Woody, with 22 points, followed by Dreamafter with 13 points, with Ed!, jwillbur, Redmarkviolinist and Borg Sphere also fielding entries. Blnguyen remains the overall leader, with 188 points in total. You are encouraged to submit articles you're working on as entries. A Sources section has been added to the Logistics department, for help tracing and locating JSTOR articles and other source material. A Linguistics section has been added to the Logistics department, for help with non-English language sources and translation of snippets. It supports 19 languages so far. An Administrators section has been added to the Logistics department, for help with admin related tasks. Administrators willing to help out are cordially asked to list their names in the section. Reminder: Editors are always needed to review various military history articles at all levels.	Articles of note New featured articles: Æthelred of Mercia Cannon HMAS Melbourne (R21) Huldrych Zwingli Timor Leste Defence Force USS Bridgeport (AD-10) New featured lists: List of countries without armed forces List of foreign recipients of the Knight's Cross List of Medal of Honor recipients for the Battle of Iwo Jima List of Victoria Cross recipients of the Royal Navy New featured topics: Atlantic campaign of May 1794 New A-Class articles: Armia Krajowa Heuschrecke 10 USS Siboney (ID-2999) William Stacy
Awards and honors Kirill Lokshin has been appointed coordinator emeritus to reflect his on-going involvement in the project. The appointment ends concurrently with the other coordinators' terms in September 2008. The following editors have been awarded the Content Review Medal for their work on reviews at various levels of military history articles: Carom, Cam, Blnguyen, Howard C. Berkowitz, Kevin Myers, Maralia, MrPrada, SoLando, and Wandalstouring. Similar awards were made last December to: Buckshot06, Cla68, Eurocopter tigre, Hawkeye7, Ian Rose, Jackyd101, JKBrooks85, Kyriakos, LordAmeth, Nick Dowling, Roger Davies, The Land, TomStar81 and Woody, most of whom are still active reviewers.
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There's a partial range (100 articles) free on the A-list worklist. Do you have time to take it on? 04:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much :) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 05:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to nag but I could I ask you to complete the range please (only 40 to go!) as I'm looking to close the drive. If you can't manage it just now, please let me know :) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 08:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

My apologies for adding to your burdens :)) Ordinarily it wouldn't matter but we're aiming for a clear gap between this drive and the new one (which starts in a couple of weeks). Thanks, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 09:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

:) You can if you really want to but frankly I'd take a break if I were you, dude :))) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 09:40, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Cool! That was bloody quick. Are you sure you did it properly? :))))) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 10:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Nah, I was just winding you up :) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 10:54, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HMS Cardiff

Saw your post on Ryan's page. I can answer a couple of the questions.

1. Between launch and commissioning HMS Cardiff would have been first fitted out, taken on contractor's trials, acceptance trials and working up. Standard for any warship. 3. HMS Glasgow was damaged on May 12 by a 1000 lb bomb that went through the rear of the ship, although it didn't explode it did a lot of damage. I got that from David Morgan's book. Morgan, David, Hostile Skies, Orion Books Limited, London, 2006, ISBN 978-0-7538-2199-2 Justin talk 20:09, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for taking the time to help and thankyou for taking the time to ask me some questions, hopefully I can accommodate you;

1. She was launched on 22 February 1974, by Lady Caroline Gilmore and commissioned on 24 September 1979' what did she do during this time? I think in this period ships go on trials, to make sure they're working, and then when they are ready to serve as part of the navy they're "commissioned".
2. Does to the Falklands war and the Gulf war sections need to have the dates by them (were there 2 wars of the Falklands?) No there wasn't, but I was given the idea of putting the dates by the guy who got the USS Wisconsin (BB-64) article up to FA.
3. Cardiff's arrival in the Total Exclusion Zone (TEZ) on 26 May, allowed a damaged HMS Glasgow to return home for repairs.' you might explain where/how Glasgow was damaged? OK
4. Since the Gulf War, Cardiff's deployments have included a deployment with the Standing Naval Force Mediterranean' you might add a sentence explaining what the 'Standing Naval Force Mediterranean' is. Isn't a link enough then?
5. Cardiff underwent a further period of maintenance' what is maintenance? (I mean is it repairs, training or what?) Could have trouble with this, my source doesn't go into any further detail. Do you think I should just drop the bit instead?
6. After taking part in the multi-national biennial exercise Bright Star' What is the 'multi-national biennial exercise Bright Star'? Do you actually want to know this, or do u just mean for the article?
7. What does the 2nd paragraph in the Gulf War section have to do with Cardiff? I was trying to lead into talking about Lynxes, ya see in the Gulf War Cardiff's Lynx saw most the action.

Cheers, Ryan4314 (talk) 20:27, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

In regard to answer 4, do you mean all the acronyms i.e. anti-air warfare (AAW)? Ryan4314 (talk) 09:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

OIC what you mean now, I was hoping a copy editor could help me with that bit, I added it recently, but found it hard to describe. Basically in 1982, we always kept a destroyer, a frigate and a supply ship in the Persian Gulf, all in a 6 month rotation. Cardiff and her frigate n supply ship had just relieved the last bunch when war broke out. I wanted to mention "the last bunch" as they were lead by the Sheffield, that was not only the lead ship of Cardiff's class but was also famously sunk at the start of the war (it was like this big public realisation that a real war had started). Do you understand? D'you think you could help me reword it? Ryan4314 (talk) 10:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you for your comments on my RFA. Even though it failed with 28 supports, 42 opposes, and 15 neutrals, I am grateful for the suggestions and advice I have received and I do hope to improve as a Wikipedian. If you ever need my help in any endeavor, feel free to drop me a line. --Sharkface217 20:06, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:NPA

I suggest you read this carefully before making further comments like those you left on my talk page. Remarks on material such as "poorly sourced", "very poorly presented" and "ungrammatical" are de rigeur on WP in edit summaries and are not personal attacks. Please stop leaving bullying remarks on editors' pages suggesting that this might not be the case. Mathsci (talk) 07:24, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Here's what I was remarking on, just in case you haven't had the chance to look. [1] Please look before you leap in future :) Mathsci (talk) 07:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: FA, GA

They're left over from ages ago when I used to list every edit I made. I think one of them was Dinosaur, I can't remember the others. I forgot I still had them. I don't want to be seen as lying about content contributions so I'll delete them. Thanks for noticing - it's been ages since I cleaned up my user page. George D. Watson (Dendodge).Talk^Help 07:31, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 14

I have just read on the Europe talk page that you are 14! Are you kidding? I cannot believe this. However, if this is true really true, I am deeply impressed and I would like to congratulate you for your constructive way of contributing to wikipedia. With respect to the Economy section on Europe. I appreciate the extensions that you made and I think we can still improve them. Do not get upset by the harsh criticism your facing there, though parts of it has substance. Actually, I enjoy very much your well mannered reaction to it :-) Tomeasy (talk) 09:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] UK economic decline

User:Mathsci appears to be correct, I must have placed the wrong reference there, thanks for brining it to my attention. I've replaced it with a reference to Rethinking International Organization: Deregulation and Global Governance, which, on pg. 64, states that post-World War II was the third major phase in a British economic decline which started in 1880; specifically that it failed to keep pace with Germany, France, Italy and Japan. Oberiko (talk)

Of course, please do. Oberiko (talk) 12:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] My talk page

Nice to see that you're reading my talk page for me - that saves me a little bit of time :) BTW, do you know who this mysterious Lord of the Winds is? Mathsci (talk) 07:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I think your guess that it was related to music was very good. In which context, "Lord of the Winds" might mean "Woodwinds"? Do you know any such musicians in the California/Berkeley area? --Elonka 07:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

It is Brandenburg Concerto IV:3 in Bach's revised version BWV 1057 in F - two alto recorders, harpsichord and strings. M.O.B. - Mathematics Orchestra of Berkeley. LOTW is on the Berkeley faculty and was probably trying to cheer me up. I shall be back in Cambridge next week, so might unwittingly cross paths with Harland1 in real life. :) Mathsci (talk) 10:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes I've heard it, but I've never played it. Brandenburg didn't write any horn concertos :(. But I have played BWV 174, "Ich liebe den Höchsten von ganzem Gemüte". I'm hope the M.O.B. are precise in their timing! It would be interesting to meet you in RL but I wouldn't recognise you or you me. :) (Unless you want to arrange a meeting place) :) Harland1 (^t/_c) 12:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Brandenburg Concerto I has 2 marvellous horn parts. Valve-less of course. Mathsci (talk) 09:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Well yes it does, sorry my mistake but I am not very good on a natural horn, too difficult. Harland1 (^t/_c) 10:01, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVI (April 2008)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXVI (April 2008)
Project news Tag & Assess 2008 launched on 24 April and will run until 4 July. We have around 60,000 articles to check, so all assistance is very welcome. As usual, there are barnstars galore and service awards for contributing editors. The project scope has been amended to include specific reference to historically accurate video games. Songs and music with long military associations are also now included. The Contest department has completed its thirteenth month of competition, which saw 27 entries. The top scorer this month is Ed! with 37 points, followed by Cam with 22 points. Woody, Howard C. Berkowitz, Redmarkviolinist, Nousernamesleft and Outdawg also fielded entries. Blnguyen remains the overall leader, with 188 points in total. You are encouraged to submit articles you're working on as entries. The coordinators have "adopted" task forces to act as prime point of contact. A list of which coordinators have adopted which task forces is here.	Articles of note New featured articles: 1960 South Vietnamese coup attempt 1962 South Vietnamese Independence Palace bombing Lazare Ponticelli Maximian Peterloo Massacre The Third of May 1808 USS Orizaba (ID-1536) USS Siboney (ID-2999) New featured lists: List of Irish Victoria Cross recipients Order of battle at the Battle of Tory Island New featured portals: Portal:American Civil War New A-Class articles: 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team (United States) Battle of Bonchurch Battle of Tassafaronga Early thermal weapons HMS Cardiff (D108) USS Comfort (AH-3) USS Orizaba (ID-1536)
Current proposals and discussions An interesting proposal to set up teams to deal with specific tasks, like taking the Top Ten most frequently read military history articles to featured articles status is here. The coordinators are exploring ways of developing and improving our fifty or so task forces. More information is here. All editors are invited to contribute to a discussion about the naming of military operations in an endeavor to reach consensus.
Awards and honors Congratulations and kudos to the four top-performing editors in BCAD: CAM (1st); Legotech (2nd); Harland1 (3rd) and Smsarmad (4th). They helped assess 4303 B-class Milhist articles. Well done! To belatedly commemorate the first anniversary of the Contest department, the overall annual winner, Blnguyen, has been awarded the Chevrons and the March monthly winner, Woody, and runner-up, Dreamafter, each receive the Writer's Barnstar.
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[edit] Humboldt Squid

Thanks for the help with the Humboldt Squid article. Cheers! ∞☼Geaugagrrl^(T)/_(C) 04:39, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Borthwick

You're welcome. Georges Mandel (talk) 20:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry for adding Borthwick castle to the Military history contest page, I won't really work on it, sorry for invading your space. Georges Mandel (talk) 20:14, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

No no really, I will work on something else, it was only in a moment of silliness that I added it. Georges Mandel (talk) 15:01, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

That's fine, thanks for being understanding. Georges Mandel (talk) 11:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVII (May 2008)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXVII (May 2008)
Project news Editors needed for Tag & Assess 2008. To coincide with the summer holidays, it will be gearing up from 15 June. As usual, barnstars galore! Partner peer reviews: for a thirty-day trial period, we'll be running joint peer reviews with Wikiproject Video Games. The idea is simple: we help with their reviews; they help with ours. This way both wikiprojects benefit from new reviewers and new ideas! We're notable: A new book, Simon Fowler's 2007 Guide to Military History on the Internet (UK:Pen & Sword, ISBN 9781844156061) rates Wikipedia as "the best general resource" for military research (p. 7). Of the military pages, he says: "The results are largely accurate and generally free of bias" (he also suggests people join the wikiproject). When rating WP as the No. 1 military site (p. 201) he says "Wikipedia is often criticised for its inaccuracy and bias, but in my experience the military history articles are spot on." A-Class reviews: the usual four-day review period may now be extended by up to three days (ie seven days in total) in the following circumstances: the article has no opposes but has insufficient support for promotion or the article's nominator requests more time to resolve matters arising during the review. The full text is here. The special projects department has opened. It will focus on specific ad-hoc high-priority tasks and implement them with informal, short-term groups of editors. The Contest department has completed its fourteenth month of competition, which saw 16 entries. The top scorer this month is Cam with 21 points, followed by Redmarkviolinist with 11 points. Woody, Dreamafter, Kyriakos, Nousernamesleft and Outdawg also fielded entries. Blnguyen remains the overall leader, with 188 points in total. You are encouraged to submit articles you're working on as entries.	Articles of note New featured articles: Battle of Tassafaronga Funerary Monument to Sir John Hawkwood HMS Cardiff (D108) Krulak Mendenhall mission Le Quang Tung Operation Passage to Freedom Paul Nobuo Tatsuguchi New featured lists: List of Texan survivors of the Battle of the Alamo List of Victoria Cross recipients of the Royal Navy List of Victoria Cross recipients of the Indian Army New A-Class articles: Battle of the Kalka River Battle of Verrières Ridge Brian Horrocks Byzantine navy Erich Hartmann Montana class battleship
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