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I would need somebody to help me support the illyrian theory of the origin of bosniaks - interrested?, ofcourse you would have to support that theory as well :P Damir Mišić

Možda sam i zainteresovan, ali se moja grupa interesa je računarstvo, infromatika i računarska grafika :) Tako da ne znam da li bi mogao pomoći.

Ma ja hajde dobro, ali ako si nekada zainteresiran slobodno dodi, naravno da bi bio u pomoci :) Znas uso sam u jedan mali urednicki konflikat na artikelu bosniaks :/ Damir Mišić

A gdje da dođem? Nisam te u potpunosti shvatio. --HarisM 02:08, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Osli's vandalism

Haris M, Live Forever, Bosniak, Bosoni, Emir Arven, HanzoHattori, Dado:

I would like to protect the Srebrenica massacre introduction from any further vandalism by Osli. He repeatedly deletes sentences from the intro that are accurate, true, relevant, and well referenced.

If we can all agree on the text of the intro, then it will become entirely clear to administrators that Osli is a vandal.

Please look at the intro as it stands now. It would be great if we could all leave it as it is now or quickly come to an introduction that we all can agree to. Currently, it explains in stark terms what happened. That is why Osli wants to delete the sentences. Make the truth less clear in the beginning, so that he can then throw in his “Defend Milosevic! Defend Serbia!” propaganda and potentially confuse some of the readers.

Please all take a look at the intro. Let’s all come to an agreed upon intro and let it stand. Then if Osli continues to delete sentences from the intro it will clearly be vandalism and if he continues, perhaps he can be banned. Then we can concentrate on the article and let our own differences of opinion be a source for constructive conversation and continuing improvement of the article.

What do you think? Fairview360 00:48, 16 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] I am being reasonable, my friend

Greetings!

Please try to view it from my neutral eyes. Most Serbs believe that the population of Medieval Bosnia were Serbs based on many historicly documented evidences. I have received requests to have Tvrtko and the others put on List of Serbs. The Croats have requested the same based on the fact that they were Catholic. Why have I fought against it? Because wikipedia is an encyclopedia (read this article) that is based solely on facts, mind several other things that manage to sneak by. In other words it is nationalist (in this case Serbian and Croatian) propaganda. I fight against those things. Tvrtko and the co. may be included on on the List of Bosnians. And know I see atempts to insert him on the List of Bosniaks, based on ...what most Bosniaks think? How to decipher that other than even more nationalist propaganda (this time Bosniak).

Also, tell me; would it be right to include all Byzantine Emperors of Illyrian origin, say like... Diocletian at the List of Albanians? Or even stranger, would it be appropriate to include Persian Chah Brastamapratustra on the List of Serbs just because Serbs are of (alleged) Iranni origin? Do you now understand what I mean?


I hope that I did not bother thy person in any way, and look forward to hear your reply. Bye! --HolyRomanEmperor 00:01, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Sve je to lijepo. Sad šta da ti odgovorim. Šta? Znam da šta god da napišem, da će se opovrgnuti. Znam i sam, da ćete uvijek furati svoju priču. Znam. U principu su nebitne stvari, koji je to razlog što se protivite činjenici da su ovdje živjeli neki Bošnjani uz Srbe i Hrvate. Vi to odbacujete i kao mogućnost, onu najmanju, jednostavno vi morate biti u pravu. To je, izvini, kompleks koji nemaš samo ti nego mnogi tvoji sunarodnjaci.
Ovo ti kažem na jednom čistom narodnom bosanskom jeziku. Mrsko mi je pisati na englenskom, bezveze mi je. Pokušavam doprijeti do vašeg načina razmišljanja. I mogu donekle shvatiti. Imate historiju svaka vam čast. Ali ste i kroz historiju stvorili više mitova nego grci. Gledam sve ovo, sve je tako zaprđeno, da prostiš. Šta god čovjek argumentovano dadne i objasni to će se opovrgnuti svojim argumentima, i tako dalje i u nedogled.
Tvrtko MORA biti na listi bosanaca, jer u dokumentima u njegovo doba, njegove države se spominju Bošnjani. A nigdje, nigdje ne piše crno na bijelo da je Srbin ili Bošnjanin ili već ko. Ali je živio tu, u Bosni. Država mu Bosanska bila. Šta još treba da ga ne uvrstimo? Hoćeš ti slučajno, lično, otići tražiti DNK Tvrtka. Ili ćeš ti meni, koji sigurno imaš iste, ograničene i veoma rijetke izvore, reći da je on u stvari Srbin jer jer jer... i još jedno jer. Kakvi su to dokazi? Hej. Više mi je mrsko. I da dokažete nekim hipaulterubermegamodernim naučnim procesom da su Hrvati i Bošnjaci i svi mi ustvari Srbi. Šta će biti? Misliš da će svi doći Srbima pružiti ruku i reći... mi smo od vas nastali, divimo vam se. Kompleks. Kompleks. Kompleks. Budi zdravo, ja odoh živjeti život. Ovo su bezveze teme.
Ovo ne smiješ shvatiti lično, ovo ja govorim generalno kao razočaranje u sve ove naše narode. Južnoslavenske, bilo koje.

--Mhare 20:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiNews (WikiVijesti)

Haris M, molim Vas da glasate za WikiVijesti

To je WikiNews na Bosanskom

--Kseferovic

Sta ima novo oko piramidi. Vidim da zivis u Visokom, pa zanima me ako si otisao ikako da vidis iskopavanje. Kseferovic 21:14, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Tell your friends about my template (Spread the word? - lol) Template:Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina

[edit] Visoko article

Hi Haris. Thanks for the kind remarks in your last edit. Can you please check carefully what I've written in the Medieval Bosnia section to make sure I've interpreted your version correctly? — JEREMY 12:15, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

If your English is self-taught, you deserve major kudos! (I am embarrassingly monolingual, although I'm a professional editor, and like to think my English is pretty good. :) Have you see the Bosnian pyramids article about the excavations on Visočiica? It would be very useful to those of us editing that article if you were able to check it over for us to make sure we're not making any serious errors. If you could provide some on-the-ground reporting about the dig (although we need to avoid "original research"), and perhaps even some photographs you were prepared to release under a wikipedia licence, it would be even better. In the meantime, I'll try to do some more to help you with the Visoko article. — JEREMY 12:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Haris, I was glad that you appreciate the assistance of a native English speaker, and I hope that I carried on the meaning of your translation and did not make any mistakes. I know there are some deeply felt issues. Actually, I know personally several families who were refugees from Bosnia who settled near me in Canberra, the capital city of Australia. I have so little any other languages that it is embarrassing. Best wishes, Peter Ellis 23:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Nijesi shvatio

Spominjes neko vi. uvjeravam te, nijesam clan "Second Phase", niti sam u Washington-u sa crnim naocarima i agencijom za koju niko nikada nije cuo; niti sam "gore, na nebu". Moras biti jasniji. E, sad, ako vi mislis da sam ja neko uzviseno bice, superiornije od covjeka, odna bi trebalo da Nas slusas. :D Hocu reci, govorio si rijeci koje nista ne znace.

Inace, ne osporavam to - naravno da ga treba staviti na listu bosanaca. No, ne treba ga staviti na listu Bosnjaka. --HolyRomanEmperor 16:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Ma kako hoćeš. Onaj odgovor je ionako bio ispoljavanje nečeg drugog. Dojadio mi je ovaj naš mentalitet. Odavno sam počeo da se bavim bitnijim stvarima. Još uvijek nekako i sa slabim znanjem enleskog nadograđujem članak Visoko. Eh sad jel Tvrtko bošnjak, bosanac ili srbin me briga, znam da je stolovao ovdje negdje. Pozdrav. --HarisM 22:00, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Dobro - ali ne razumijem zasto si ispoljio toliko neprijateljsko raspolozenje prema meni. Dakle - da, Tvrtko jeste Bosanac - ako se to odnosi na gradjanina/prebivnika/vladara regije/drave Bosne. Da, on jest Bosnjak - ako se to odnosi na donedavno tradicionalni naziv za sve stanovnike Bosne (i Hercegovine) - mada u njegovo vrijeme to jos nije nastalo. I da, Srbin je, ako to nije pripadnost etnicke grupe ili nacionalnost - vec kulturni faktor. U cemu je problem bio na prvom mjestu? --HolyRomanEmperor 15:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Problem je što sam iznerviran našim ljudima i mentalitetom. Umoran. Toliko. --HarisM 16:08, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Then avoid them. :) --PaxEquilibrium 14:10, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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Dr Zak 13:55, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Pa nemoj na meni ispoljavati onda! --HolyRomanEmperor 16:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Ti si se javio na moju talk stranicu. Ajde ćao. --HarisM 16:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Nakon sto si me iznapadao na Talk:Bosniaks... --HolyRomanEmperor 13:51, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Hajde ćao ba. Završio sam sa ovom temom davno. --HarisM 14:53, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Glad to see. --PaxEquilibrium 14:01, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rukomet7.jpg

I have moved your image Image:Rukomet7.jpg to Commons Image:Handball_Bosnia_Greece.jpeg and proposed it for speedy deletion. It will be used in the German de:Handball article. Thanks

No problemo. You are welcome any time. ;) --HarisM 21:03, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can't wait?

Can't wait? You didn't even bother to draw Brčko District on the map? Geez... --Ante Perkovic 14:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 100,000

Hi Haris :) I saw your addition to the "100,000" on the "Jews in BiH" page. Just wondering if you could also add a source for the number of Bosnians who fought with the Partisans -- that would really be cool :) Cheers =) AWN AWN2 14:32, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Haris :) The "100,000" reference came from one source, so if you have another source and better figures on what Bosnians did during the War, that would be great. References to the Muslim clergy's response to the Nazis would also be good. I also know that relations between Bosnians and Jews before the War were quite good, and that many Bosnians helped Jews during the Holocaust, but I can't find references for it at the moment, if you have anything, that would also be good :) Cheers, AWN AWN2 00:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lilium bosniacum

Hi. It was me that removed Lilium bosniacum from the Lilium article. I also added the request for references to Lilium bosniacum at the same time. The reason for taking it out from the Lilium article was that I don't see any evidence thaht it is a recognised species, accepted as such by botanists, and by publication in botanical literature. All the other species are listed in recognised floras, but L. bosniacum is not in any accepted lists of species that I know of. Perhaps you could provide any references that you do have. Thanks. Imc 22:02, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] link to bosnia

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[edit] DYK

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[edit] Bosnian WikiProject

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[edit] Bosnian images

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[edit] check Srebrenica article

KarlXII who might be a reincarnation of Osli73 and Jitse are deleting the intro to the Srebrenica article. I believe the intro -- the way it was before these latest deletions -- very accurately communicates a clear and comprehensive picture of what actually happened. To stop the Srebrenica article from spinning out of control again, I am writing notes to all the editors who have an interest in the article and asking that you visit the site more often. Thank you. Fairview360 04:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some advice

Hello HarisM,

I understand that writing about one's country is always a difficult thing and that your reaction to what you interpret as a hostile action by another user, for adding the reference to combatants from Islamic countries during the war in BiH. I personally do not believe that Hadžija is being unreasonable. The sources provided are verifiable and from a reliable source (the BBC), therefore even if you disagree I believe these are in line with Wikipedia policies and guidelines. This is not to say that the government of Bosnia-Herzegovina at the time called for Jihad, but that many Muslim volunteers did see the cause as Jihad[1][2]. I would also like to ask you to remain civil in your exchanges with other editors, as this would not help you to make your opinion heard indeed. Regards, --Asteriontalk 17:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

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[edit] Sources

There is no need for you to bother. Bosnian government = local Muslims. Nikola 04:07, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Don't make false accusations about other users"

In regards to this, you may want to give that same advice to your mate Emir Arven, especially considering the admin he falsely accused me to doesn't believe his ridiculous claims. —KingIvan 11:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] proposed edit to Section 2.4 of the Srebrenica Massacre article

HarisM,

I just posted the following on the Srebrenica Massacre discussion page and am now, as a courtesy, posting this on the talk pages of frequent editors of the article. Best Regards, Fairview360 02:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Dear editors,

Please visit this version of the Srebrenica Massacre article to see the proposed changes to section 2.4: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Srebrenica_massacre&oldid=117151359

Please visit this site to see the proposed sub-article which the proposed section 2.4 text will be linked to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_executions_in_the_Srebrenica_massacre

If there is no major objection, we would like to introduce this major edit to the article this Sunday March 25. This ought to give each editor the time they need to review the proposed changes before they are fully introduced.

The objective here is to make the article more concise while continuing to clearly state what happened and in no way obscure actual events.

A full review of the proposed changes to section 2.4 and the sub-article will show that all information regarding the executions has been preserved and presented in a clear manner.

Thank you for your time and consideration. Fairview360 01:28, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

Reverted to the wrong version.

As you can see there were some arguments with a community-banned troll. We reverted to the wrong version - not intentionally. --PaxEquilibrium 11:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad we cleared up.
Considering the discussions we had before, I would not believe my good intentions if I was in your place!
Thank you very much for the good will exposed! --PaxEquilibrium 22:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Debate on the correct adjective for Kosovo

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[edit] Questions about the war

Hi ! I'd like to ask you some questions about the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina if you don't mind, as I don't know anybody who lives there. Do you accept to contact me by e-mail ? Spectrum_X

[edit] Pitanje u vezi stanovništva Visokog

Jesi li siguran za ove nove podatke što si unio? Ja sam prvobitne unio iz informatora Visočke općine. --HarisM 01:33, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Da. Podaci koji se seljakaju ovdje ondje svuda po netu o nacionalnom sastavu po opštinama u Bosni i Hercegovini iz 1991. godine uzeti su ugl. iz podataka koji pokazuju preliminarne rezultate tog popisa, npr. može se naći na hdt magazinu ili nešto slično. Podaci koje sam dao su službeni rezultati popisa iz 1991. u BiH.To je knjiga koja se zove Narodnosni sasatv stanovništva SR BiH, po opštinama i naseljima, izdanje Republički zavod za statistiku, Sarajevo. Inače te podatke sam postavio i na stranicu Wikipedia koja se zove Popis 1991. Bosna i Hercegovina, mislim Census in Bosnia-Herzegovina 1991. ili slično. Imaš podatke za svih 109 opština i to za grupe Muslimani (Bošnjaci), Srbi, Hrvati, Jugosloveni i ostali (odn. ostale nacionalnosti, neopredeljeni, regionalno opredeljeni i nepoznati zajedno). Inače na bosanskoj Wikipediji sam postavio podatke za sve opštine, a za oko 50 opština (koliko sam stigao) dao sam podatke i za naseljena mesta. Za Visoko nisam još, možda uskoro, ima puno naseljenih mesta u opštini Visoko oko 80-tak, pa nije baš lak posao... :)) U svakom slučaju pozdrav!

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[edit] Tvrtko I

Balcan boy tell me reason for deleting Croatian name of Tvrtko in article.--Rjecina (talk) 01:48, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I do not see neutral arguments in your comment. Do you want to say that it is OK to write Serbian version of his name, but not Croatian ?
I am sure that about this we will not have edit war.--Rjecina (talk) 02:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
It is POV to write only Serbian version of name. If you do not understand my point please read Wikipedia:Neutral point of view--Rjecina (talk) 02:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
But I'd like to refrain from using any national denomination, and instead just list the versions of the name. What is wrong with that? Tvrtko's real name was Stefan. And that was over 600 years ago, Stefan wasn't simply a Serbian name - Tvrtko wasn't a Serb and yet he wore it. There's also even a Serb named Stjepan (Stjepan Mitrov Ljubisa) from the 19th century. --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 02:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
So, any idea? --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 13:09, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
So the current version is OK? --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 14:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] dyk

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[edit] Sockpuppetry case

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[edit] My apologies

I am not alone believing that AhmadinV (talk · contribs) is a sockpuppet of an account that was blocked some time ago, but when I look at your contributions history, I no longer believe you are the same person as him. Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused to you. --Blanchardb-Me•MyEars•MyMouth-timed 19:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] discussing edits of Bosnian war, Bosnian mujahideen and related articles

Hi, I would really like to avoid a pointless edit war on a number of related articles:

I am sure you agree that the best way to avoid this is to discuss edits on the Talk page. Since the edit conflict in the Mujahideen and Role of foreign fighters in the Bosnian war articles is related to that on the Bosnian mujahideen article, I suggest that the discussion about these three take place there. The edit conflicts on the Bosnian war article should be discussed separately there. How about that? RegardsOsli73 (talk) 15:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I have protected Bosnian mujahideen. You have several times reverted the page to a version the was originally created by user:Grandy Grandy or one of his/her sockpuppets.[3][4] please discuss in detail on the talk page of Bosnian mujahideen what you think is wrong with the version that user:Osli73 has been reverting to. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 01:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I have just looked at the Bosnian War article and also not that you have recently reverted to a version by yet another sockpuppet of user:Grandy Grandy.[5] and also in the article Role of foreign fighters in the Bosnian War [6]. Was user:Grandy Grandy a sock puppet of yours? --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 01:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
From my talk page:
I am NOT a sockpuppet of anybody. I am on this wikipedia too long, and you should know it, what are my interest and style. Am I sockpuppet when I just happen to agree with somebody who insist on ICTY sources (and others that are reliable)? My arguments are there, and I don't even want to discuss about sock puppeting, even you could check it, and find that I am not nobody's sock puppet. It's up to you. --HarisM (talk) 14:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I did not ask if you were a sockpuppet I asked "Was user:Grandy Grandy a sock puppet of yours?" --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 15:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
From my talk page:
Logically - NO. --HarisM (talk) 15:23, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk)


From my talk page:

It is interesting that you didn't react about Osli's vandalism in Srebrenica massacre article, when he removed (he does that all the time), some quotes from the ICTY verdict which means you are biased. Why?
[7] --HarisM (talk) 14:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

(1)The Srebrenica massacre is not on my watch list so the day to day squabbles over that page pass me by. (2) In the diff you have given AFAICT the only substancial delete was the sentence that starts: "A fierce struggle for territorial control ..." which is not sourced. (3) I would have reverted the edits as well because shifting the "Paddy Ashdown" sentence above the citations implies that the citations covers the Paddy Ashdown factoid which AFAICT it does not. (4) What do you mean by biased? --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 17:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement#Osli73 --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 13:18, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Archive

Would you like me to archive your talk page?--~SRS~ 20:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

On talk page of article Serbs of Croatia we are creating rules about sources which will be used for articles about Yugoslav Wars (Talk:Serbs of Croatia). Because until now nobody has represented Bosniaks positions about NPOV sources I am calling you to discusson and vote. In table you need to change name new editor to HarisM and give your vote in section NPOV sources. If you are not interested can you please give this call to another Bosnian editor ?--Rjecina (talk) 07:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Sorry Haris, long time no hear from me. My bad! I had other issues in my life...I am not sure which articles you are referring to? Kruško Mortale (talk) 19:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Haris, I made a few corrections in those articles you edited, but I haven't seen any major inconsistency. But if you want me to help you with any particular article, please inform me, I'll be glad to do that. Kruško Mortale (talk) 21:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)