User talk:Harig

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Regarding this remark, please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. —Khoikhoi 02:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, his tone may sound a bit pissed-off, but this is because he is frustrated with various users who havn't been very cooperative either. I can't remove his comment becuase it isn't a personal attack on another user (see Wikipedia:Remove personal attacks). Regards, —Khoikhoi 02:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Also, although you removed the "troll" part, this comment is still very uncivil. I suggest you try to be more kind. —Khoikhoi 02:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

You don't seem to understand the situation. The articles have said that Kochi is larger than Trivandrum for virtually years before these group of users showed up. Thunderboltz never added the information in the first place. And he's just stating what a rule is, "Wikipedia is not a soap box". His tone of voice is a lot less harsh than yours. I have nothing against Skyscrapercity form, the problem is a whole bunch of users just popped up out of nowhere and I have a feeling that they're taking the debate over there to Wikipedia. There's tons of discussion on the topic, it seems that you're the one with the conspiracy theory man! —Khoikhoi 02:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. :) —Khoikhoi 03:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I never said it was the truth, I was just trying to explain to you what was going on. —Khoikhoi 03:08, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

LOL, when I read the first part of your message I thought you were so mad at me. ;) The Kerala article is a featured article by the way, mostly due to the work of User:Saravask, one of the best editors I've ever met. Take it easy, —Khoikhoi 03:15, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, on with life! And allow me to give you a welcome message:

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Umm..was going through the comments above. I'm sorry if I've been harsh or rude. I never meant to be. Its just that those guys have never been agreeing for a decent discussion, and have been sending me threat emails and stuff. They have been searching around for my phone number too. And above all, they are blaming me for making a map that does not contain trivandrum, for making kochi the biggest city in kerala, for vandalising wikipedia, and a whole lot of other things (for the sole reason that I'm from Kochi and have taken a lot of trouble to bring Kochi article to its present state), when in truth I haven't done any of these. I think I've stayed quite reasonably calm while all these baseless accusations were thrown on me. The "Sock puppetry" and "soap box" wordings are wikipedia technical terms, not my own.
Anyhow, if anybody has found my comments disturbing, I apologise. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}

Yash Raj Films, the copyright holder for the movie characters Hum Tum has said that they would get back to me soon about the issue, when I wrote to them eons ago asking for fair use of their characters, and they havent bothered to get back to me as of yet. I can forward that email to you if you wish, or you could confirm it with Yash Raj directly. Anyways, I'll change the logo, as its copyright is ambiguous. It was uploaded by me during my n00b days on wikipedia.
The allegations that I raised are not baseless. I had concrete evidence to support that these people came as a result of a debate that broke out on online forums, including, but not limited to SSC. (People on these forums who support the kochi side has been sending me emails too - on which I';ve never acted on). But my stand, has always been neutral, if you look at anything that I've said. I dont have any Kochi spirit like you people say. I've been on wikipedia for nearly a year now, contributing to a wide variety of articles, keeping WP:NPOV in mind. The only reason that I fought for kochi was that it was regarded as the biggest city in Kerala even by the government, and all sources counted as reliable as per WP:RS. These guys had broken many a rules on wiki, including the 3R rule, which qualifies you for an immediate ban. However, I never reported, and was only calling them for a discussion, but they never came. And its not just me, there are plenty other users here who stand with my viewpoint, but I've been the juicy apple for everyone, coz I'm from Kochi, and my ideas are biased. All I did was reverting the edits that these people made on wikipedia - which were done or seemed to be done wth the motive of advertising TVM as per WP:APT. They deleted maps that did not contain TVM, or contained Kochi. They bolded all instances of TVM in articles, etc.
My voice might have been formal and perhaps a bit harsh, but that is what happens when people make balant accusations against you, and send you threat mails. People work here devoted, without expecting any remmuneration in return.
Anyway, I've closed this issue. I've given up trying to make them see reason. They are now fighting with the wikipedia admins to get TVM shown on all India maps in wikipedia. There are thousands of stub articles on Kerala, which needs attention - i'm not going to waste my time with that silly rhubarb again. thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK} 06:57, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello!