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[edit] Pope Innocent

te a source about the commetn about Pope Innocent I? I find it unlikely he would condone pagan divination.

I don't have a source, but it's not too far-fetched. Stan 05:15, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm not logged in, but I'll attempt to sign manually. I was wondering... why does "soothsayer" redirect here? There are multiple forms of soothsayers, both in the ancient and modern world, who were not a haruspex within Etruscan or Roman society. The germanic peoples, for example, used Runic divination, and those who specialised in this field are widely considered and called 'soothsayers'. Can anyone give me an answer why "soothsayer" directs here instead of having an article of its own in which haruspex is linked? Oh, and I also removed the rubbish one anonymous user put on the talk page (since they were song lyrics which mentioned haruspices arbitrarily, and had nothing to do with the article; I thought it to be vanity inserted into the talk page, and thankfully not in the article. If you really want to read it, look at the history. User:Kaelus

[edit] Haruspicy is not exclusively Etruscan or Roman

Seems that people don't know about Babylonian extispicy. Guess yo'll are too busy praising Jesus or watching CNN to read up what's available even on the internet! Babylonians are directly or indirectly the ultimate source of Etruscan haruspicy during a time when they were still residing in Western Anatolia before 1200 BCE. Old Babylonian Extispicy by Ulla Jeyes, anyone? --Glengordon01 02:42, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Really bad sources

Anyone who thinks Ars Haruspicina counts as a valid source of information is not playing with a full deck of cards. And I quote from that website:

"APLU! Phoebos! Apollo! Delian! Pythian! Lord of Delphi! Guardian of the Sibyls! Or by whatever other name You wish to be called, I pray and beseech You that You may by Your majesty be propitious and well-disposed to me, for which I offer this Egg. If I have worshiped You and still do worship You, You who taught Mankind the Art of Prophecy, You who have inspired my Divination, then come now and show Your Signs that I might know the Will of the Gods! I seek to know (say the Question) THUI SRENAR TEV! [Show Signs, here, now!]."

Oh go to hell, you fruitcake. We need real facts here, not a sceance. I'm taking it out. Eat me. --Glengordon01 09:35, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Pop Culture stuff

I was pretty glad that this section was removed, and I'm dismayed to see it back again. It is a long list of non-notable trivia that I think has no place in a serious article. Does anyone want to defend keeping it around? If not, I may take it out again Mlouns 13:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

The user who removed the section is on a pop-culture-section-removal rampage. He's blindly removed about 100 of them so far. This is not the way such sections are to be handled: as per WP:TRIVIA, these sections are supposed to be kept around for possible improvement or integration with other sections. I've reverted all such edits by this user, as vandalism, because that's what it constitutes. If there are specific reasons why the contents of a section would never be suitable for the article, even if improved and/or integrated into other sections, then specific rationale should be cited, and then the items can be removed. Categorical removal of all pop-culture sections is not acceptable, and will be reverted just as categorically.

Equazcion • argue/improves • 13:53, 10/9/2007

I can buy that -- it did seem like a crude way from him to go about it. But I'll still take the opportunity to see if anyone wants to defend keeping the items on this particular page. If I don't hear in a few days, I will probably delete, since it all seems like useless cruft to me. Mlouns 14:05, 9 October 2007 (UTC)