Talk:Harold M. Ickes

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[edit] Let's expand this article

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Seems like a pretty important person in the democratic party. Bryan Hopping ^T 17:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

As an attorney in private practice with a politically-connected Long Island law firm, Ickes has represented some of the most corrupt union locals in America. When a member of the carpenters' union raised objections to having the pension fund controlled by a convicted criminal (the conviction might have been for murder, but the only witnesses were found dead in car trunks) named Mike Crimi, Ickes severely reprimanded this union carpenter for his insubordination. That inident is not documented anywhere (although Crimi's criminal record is, and Ickes' involvement with construction unions is) — but what is documented would fill a book. If a Google search (Ickes + Coia) immediately reveals a vast amount of solid information in impeccable sources that documents Ickes' shady associations (which came out during Bill Clinton's first term), isn't it rather pathetic to have a Wikipedia article that doesn't breathe a word of it? Or is all that irrelevant to understanding the character of the man at the dead center of the biggest political stories of the day? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chelydra (talk • contribs) 15:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Let's put this in context: Ickes has been Hillary Clinton's chief political strategist since she first put out feelers for her first Senate campaign. The current campaign's central message is that they care deeply about the fate of (white) blue collar working folks. I think Wikipedia readers might want to know what form that "caring" has taken in real life. The evidence suggests that Ickes not only isn't bothered by the kind of union corruption that sometimes extends to murdering members who demand honesty — he seems to whole-heartedly endorse that way of dealing with humble blue collar working folks. But of course, Wikipedia readers will only get the sanitized "party line" portraying Ickes as just a tough, competent political insider who works for liberal causes.Chelydra (talk) 16:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)