Talk:Harmonic major scale

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[edit] Unique?

  • It is important to note that the sequence of notes in the harmonic major scale is unique. That is to say that it is not a permutation on any other scale.

What does this mean, exactly? —Keenan Pepper 05:25, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

For example, the minor scale may be considered as derived from the major scale. The C major and A minor scales have the exact same notes but different tonics or most important notes. The claim is then that the C harmonic major scale, C D E F G Ab B C, may not be turned into a different pre-existing well known scale by using a different tonic.
See Diatonic_scale#Technical_composition_of_diatonic_scales. Hyacinth 11:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
It also means that the Harmonic Major is not a mode of Harmonic Minor. Their structures are not the same. I am correcting the entry from 4/1/2008 to reflect this. -Tedclaymore (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Original research?

This whole article is questionable; I've never heard this scale called the harmonic major. —Keenan Pepper 05:29, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Never heard of it? Have you ever heard of Google?
Though I have never heard of this scale it does exist:
  • "The author of another harmony 'textbook' whose acquaintance Takemitsu had made more recently may also have had an influence on the materials of Coral Island. Amongst the family of scales that form the basis of Russell's Lydian Chromatic Concept is the 'Lydian Diminished' [0,1,3,4,7,8,10], in effect a kind of melodic-minor scale with sharpened fourth, or major scale with flattened sixth: an inversion of the traditional 'harmonic minor' scale, it is analogously known as the 'harmonic major' in jazz theory."
    • Burt, Peter (2001). The Music of Toru Takemitsu, p.100-101. ISBN 0521782201.
  • "an E harmonic major scale (because of the m3rd from C to D#). It is built on the interval sequence: 1-1/2-1 and 1/2-1/2-1-1-1-1/2, and contains the notes: A B C D# E F# G# A. Notice that this is a melodic minor scale with a raised fourth."
  • C harmonic major scale: C D E F G Ab B C.
  • Campbell, Gary (2001). Triad Pairs for Jazz: Practice and Application for the Jazz Improviser, p.5. ISBN 0757903576.
  • "...the 17th mode of the cryptophrygian harmonic major scale."
  • "Eb Harmonic major (from its third mode): G Ab Bb Cb D Eb F G"
    • Willmott, Bret (1994). Mel Bays Complete Book of Harmony Theory and Voicing, p.174. ISBN 156222994X.
  • "Aside from the three chord-scale systems of Ionian, melodic minor and harmonic minor, a fourth chord-scale system can be formed, its name, the harmonic major, being taken from its natural scale. The harmonic major scale is a major scale with the sixth note of the scale flattened, which means it can also be called 'Ionian b13' (Example 1) [Example one shows: C D E F G Ab B C] Unlike the three systems we have looked at before, the harmonic major chord-scale system is not well entrenched in musical history, but it can nevertheless be easily constructed by applying processes of logical deliberation. [explination follows]"
    • Haunschild, Frank (2000). Haunschild : The New Harmony Book, p.121. ISBN 3927190683.
Hyacinth 11:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music) on flats and sharps

Flats and sharps

Use either Unicode flat (♭, ♭) and sharp (♯, ♯) symbols or the words flat and sharp. Do not use b for flat or # (the number sign) for sharp.


Like it or hate it, it's apparently policy. Gene Ward Smith 03:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)