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The Haradrim spoke the tongue of Haradiac and was quite unknown to the Men of the west. They were heard echoing these crys while entering the Battle of the Pelennor Fields during the War of the Ring. When the Dark Lord Sauron was finally defeated at the end of the Third Age, Harad formed an alliance with Gondor and they remained close allies for years to come. Little is known of Far Harad, yet we do know that the lands of Near Harad were allies to Gondor during the Fourth Age or the Age of the Dominion of Men. They were known for their dark skin and their immense strength that was said to rival a hill troll; yet we do not know if these accusations are true. Most Haradrim worshipped Sauron as a god and offered sacrifices to him at their temples; those that did not accept Sauron were killed. They were skilled warriors and successfully managed to raise and train a Mumakil, or an oliphaunt, to be beasts of war for them against the Gondorians during the Third Age. Mumakil usually stood ten stories tall, thus being greatly larger than their present-day elephantine relatives of Africa and Asia. Haradrim were transported throughout Sutherland and even to the bordors of Gondor. They were a gender based society and relied on the men for food, protection, and government. Some Haradrim were longed lived, sometimes rivaling the Numenorians and spanding to two-hundred years; though most barely reached one hundred. I now conclude with this final statement. The Haradrim were followers of the Dark Lord, yes, but they followed him out of fear not out of true loyalty.--69.134.95.4 00:58, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)Sal Della Villa June 4, 2004

Most of the above is based on non-canon sources (MERP, probably...) Ausir 04:49, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

In the lands of Haradwaith there are many tribes constantly at war. Each tribe is adapted to where it lives, though some may be nomadic. The tribes are mainly centered around certain realms of Haradwaith (see Harad). In the lands of Near Harad, Pelargir,and Harandor [sic?], the tribes are more normal, being nomadic or simply living in cities. In Khand, the men are varied, though most are nomadic or bear the characteristics of their king. In Umbar, the men are city-people, or more warlike, riding in the fleets of Dalamyr and are more accustomed to the seas. The tribesmen of Far Harad are very different. In Kârna and Badharkân the men are made to live in the forests, though the men of Badharkân are housed in a great city-fortess, whereas the men of Kârna live in a ruined city. Also, more nomadic men of the mountains live in Hidâr and guards are placed along the Harad road. Lastly, the men of the Nâfarat are all nomadic, living in encampments at Dhâran-sar, Abrakân, and Gadîrkarn, though the men of Dhâran-sar may roam the mountains.

This time it's from The Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game. If only Tolkien wrote more about these guys, then we wouldn't have to invent... Uthanc 17:25, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VfD result

The consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tribelands of Haradwaith was declared "merge to Harad", but it was clear in the discussion that it should have been merged where appropriate - namely The Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game - since most of the info wasn't from Tolkien. I removed the added text (in the main section) and put the original text here, but I was reverted, so to comply with the verdict I've removed the original info again except for the names, which I put in the right section. Uthanc 23:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Africa

I generally thought that the more well-kingdoms in Middle Earth corresponded with Europe and then Harad could be paralleled with Africa, however this is merely my interpretation. Is there any canonicial basis to this? LukeSurl ^{t c} 10:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)