Talk:Haplogroup F (Y-DNA)
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The article contains a lot of confusing claims. First, Y-haplogroup F (and its female counterpart, mtDNA haplogroup N) probably didn't leave Africa earlier than 50 000 years ago, because they bear Upper Paleolithic technologies that got to East Africa as late as at that time. By 47 000 years BP, maternal lineages UK coming from N are present in the Levant and shortly after radiate to North Africa, Europe and South-Western Asia. However, their presence in the Levant may rather be a result of a secondary migration. This can be indirectly supported by the fact that the maternal N-lineages present in the Near East mostly belong to one lineage (R: UK, JT, HV) that is only a subset of many lineages stemming from N. Moreover, a later expansion of F+N that started 45 000 years BP and headed to Central Asia and India/South-Eastern Asia, is accompanied by far more diverse composition of N-lineages and suggests that the original migration center of the whole F+N group may have been somewhere in the Middle East (Iran?). In general, the course of F+N's migration rather followed the Arabian coast, similarly like in the case C+M.
The origin of Afro-Asiatic languages lies almost certainly in the Horn of Africa 8000 years BP. The African lineage of R1 has nothing to do with it, because it is present only in few West African groups. J1 is a signature of the spread of Semitic tribes. K2 got to East Africa through Arabia probably as early as during the Paleolithic. Centrum99 82.100.61.114 17:48, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
