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Contents 1 NPOV - Jewish 2 Ethnicity in lead sentence 3 Micellaneous section 4 58 Homers in 1938 5 Misc section needs better sourceing 6 deleted section

[edit] NPOV - Jewish

Is it really necessary to point out he was Jewish with such prominence and overkill? Some of the introductory paragraph seems to not be NPOV... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.195.114.79 (talk • contribs) 24 June 2005

I agree. The opening paragraph or sentence should be a quick summary of who the player was but not into his overall background. I moved info regarding his religion into a seperate section although I question the relevance of it in the first place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dysepsion (talk • contribs) 7 July 2005

I realize this is a really old conversation, but I wanted to leave a not as to why I'm re-inserting the Jewish thing into the intro. Greenberg played baseball at the height of anti-semetism, and he was the only star Jewish athlete of the time. He was heckled with anti-Semitic slurs, and it's commonly believed that he didn't break Babe Ruth's home run record in 1938 because pitchers who didn't want a Jew to hold the record pitched around him. He was a role model to young Jewish men at a time when they were stereotyped as weak, sneaky, and bookish; the Sandy Koufax of his era. Not mentioning Greenberg's Judaism in the into is, frankly, like not mentioning that Jackie Robinson or Hank Aaron are African-American. Greenberg's Jewishness is central to his place in baseball history. --Djrobgordon 22:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you; It was well known that he would have gone past the "Babe"s record if he was christian or similar.......

Msjayhawk 02:51, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnicity in lead sentence

Greenberg's ethnicity is gone into detail in the body of the article where it belongs. Thanks --Tom 20:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Micellaneous section

It has one reference? Most of that stuff should go as unsourced/original research. I'll hold off for now. --Tom 20:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 58 Homers in 1938

It sounds like you are saying from 1927 to 1961 he was the only person to hit 58 homers. What about Foxx hitting 58 in 1932?

Do you agree with what I put in....... ? Msjayhawk 02:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Msjayhawk 19:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misc section needs better sourceing

The sources might be at the end of the article, but each "fact" really should have a citation so readers don't have to look for them. I knoe Epee has done alot here, could that be done as well? TIA --Tom 16:02, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I added a few.--Epeefleche 21:26, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] deleted section

I jsut deleted the following section added earlier on 17 December 07: ==Anti-Semitism==

All during his major league career, Greenberg faced anti-semitsm. Many people screamed and yelled at him during the games, calling him names offensive to Jews. Henry Ford was one of the anti-semetic people. He wrote a book called The International Jew, which blamed some of the world's problems on the Jews. Despite the name calling and rowdy fans, Hank stood proud and tall. He did not let the crowd upset him.

I have no doubt that Mr. Greenberg suffered through anti-semitism. I deleted this section because, for one, the anti semitism is addressed in the article. Second, this section has no references. Third, the inclusion of the Henry Ford comment, true as it is either has no bearing on this particular article, or does not make a case as to why it should be included here.

If someone can reference it, and show why the Henry Ford comment is of relevance here, then please re-add it. Good editing! LonelyBeacon (talk) 03:22, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Just my own theory here, but Henry Ford was not only a prominent industrialist of the day and, therefore, influential to many people, but he was also one of the most prominent Detroit citizens of his day, and with Greenberg playing for the Detroit Tigers, having one of the leading local citizens (and employers) so verbally anti-semitic couldn't have made his life in Detroit any easier.CrashRiley (talk) 00:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)