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Shouldn't this have a list of what the laws said? --139.142.227.91 (talk) 22:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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The German Wikipedia claims he was the 5th king.

Also there is a pretty big discrepancy in terms of when he lived.

Egil 08:33, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)


This has to do with the variations in the systems of Chronology of the Ancient Near East. I think someone's working on harmonizing it.--Rob117 04:03, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

I added the paragraph about the questionable nature of the steele. Taken from the source listed (which uses the primary sources excavated from the region), it says explicity that not one legal document ever found has referenced it (the code).


I don't know about that reference, it appears to be a book that just came out within the past 10 months (2005); hardly anything like a "general consensus", but it also appears to contradict everything else, from Ashurbanipal's Library at Nineveh, and numerous references to the Code. Codex Sinaiticus 15:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Okay, well until you can point out a single legal document from the time period that references the steele, or even a secondary source saying otherwise, I'm going to have to side with the expert and I'm changing it back. To imply that because it is new that it is questionable is absurd.

I think we've already pointed out one secondary source saying otherwise - the 1911 Britannica. Your 2005 source is not just questionable because it's new; it's also questionable because it's questionable. Things on wikipedia aren't changed thru dogged persistence (it never works); they are changed through consensus of the editors. The burden is now on you to come up with some more convincing proof before changing it back again. Codex Sinaiticus 02:44, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

No, the burden is on you to show ANYWHERE in the 1911 Britannica it says there are relics from the period that reference the law code! You can't, because THERE ARE NONE! All that remains that refers to the steele is the steele itself. You're propagating a lie, and your logic is that because I wrote it first, it is more right. I don't really care about the issue, so keep it your way if it makes you feel better, but the veracity of this article will suffer until it is changed. Well done.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.213.141.247 (talk • contribs) .

I also think the "questionable nature" comment is a bit odd. There is definitely a general consensus that it's a law code, even if a few scholars would dispute it.--Rob117 04:03, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Law code consensus

I have just read the book referenced by the user concerning the nature of the law code, and I think I understand where he's going. The book, History of the Ancient Near East: Ca. 3000-323 BC, is not a crackpot work, it's written by a level-headed specialist whose field of research is cuneiform documents. What we objected to was the Wikipedia contributor's slightly inaccurate representation of what the author says; he never says that there is no reference to the law code in Babylonian law; just no references contemporary with it. In later times the law code was studied and applied, just not, in his view, in the time of Hammurabi himself. I'll change the article to acknowledge this authors view (although I'm not sure I agree with his interpretation, it's the right thing to do).--Rob117 22:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

If we have references to the contemporary use of the law code, please cite them, because the book I'm referencing claims there are none. I looked through the Babylonian Law article in the 1911 Britannica and did not find any there either.--Rob117 23:13, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

So then, if the author was right, the copies and references at Ashurbanipal's library, mentioned in "Babylonian Law" are from a later period, and not from Hammurabi's own time? I think that's what you mean, if so, the article should make that clearer IMO ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 23:17, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. How come your signature is three question marks instead of Codex (I assume this is codex because that's what it says on the edit screen before the question marks)? --Rob117 01:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Because you don't have gfzemen.ttf in your font folder...ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 02:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hammurabi == good leader but his civiliation failed eventually

Who is Hammurabi and what were the laws he created intended for

[edit] Cultural depictions of Hammurabi

I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information. I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list. Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article. Since cultural references sometimes get deleted without discussion, I'd like to suggest this approach as a model for the editors here. Regards, Durova 17:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Birth+Death

I don't understand i have visited a lot of sites and they dates of Hammurabi's birth and death are different i don't think it is right to give people the wrong infromation. I know it is the Internet ,but your suppose to be a trusted site.


If i am wrong please tell me. The "Real" dates are (

1792-1750)No they are not the dates are 1891-1856

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.58.193.122 (talk) 00:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

Hey, about the dates for Hammurabi, all the different years you see is due to the different chronologies and uncertainties of this period. There is no "right date", because there are large margins of error due mostly to inconsistent sources. The range you provided, 1792-1750, is the most common chronology, but there has been a revised chronology which puts his reign a generation later. Apparently it's starting to gain favor among Assyriologists, but that's open to interpretation. --Šarukinu 21:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protection

I've semi-protected again, for a bit longer. Can someone who really knows this topic check the article for old vandalism that is still in it? GRBerry 02:23, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I found and reverted one item from early September. I've checked back to July 6 and don't see anything else. Anyone else want to go through this article? I raised this concern because I've seen other articles where persistent vandalism stopped when old but missed vandalism was cleaned up. GRBerry 17:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hammurabi Semitic man

is Hammurabi Semitic man from the Amorites

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[edit] GA Sweeps

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Jackyd101 (talk) 12:10, 29 May 2008 (UTC)