Talk:Halo: Contact Harvest

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[edit] "Preceded by"?

The "Preceded by" and "Followed by" bits in the infobox are ambiguous. Isn't there some way they could be worded better, to indicate whether they mean preceded or followed in publishing order or story order? Not to mention whether they refer to all Halo media, just the books, or just the text-only books and not the comics.

I'd be in favor of switching to story order instead of publishing order, but I'm undecided on whether to include the games or not. 68.44.13.236 19:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I think only the books should be included. Also, isnt there a picture of the book up on bungie.net? Shouldnt someone post that to try to give mroe information?

Only books should be used, and material should be referenced out-of-universe, making Ghosts of Onyx the proper book to rpoceed Contact Harvest. Also, please sign your comments on the talk page with four tildes in the future, as it makes it easier to identify who makes what comment. Peptuck 16:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
in the storyline, the harvest events are the first to happen, and the events in Ghosts of Onyx is several decades later. I think this should be reported in story order. Nieren 17:16, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Argument: Someone not versed in the series is much more likely to be interested in the story order than the publication order. --DocumentN 04:06, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
that i would agree with, and shouldn't we start creating a plot synposis? 76.86.179.37 03:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
On the templates doc page it says "Title of prior book in series (linked if poss.)". Since this book isn't in any of the existing series (though there might be another later). I removed the tags. --ShakataGaNai 07:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Shakata. I think the "Preceded By" should be left out for now. Hunter076 20:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Release date

Actually, the book was already out in some stores by October 20. At least one guy took a picture. --DocumentN 02:36, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

And? Hunter076 20:16, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

this article could be construed as amade up, mostly during the middle and beginning, basically due to a rather sloppy job. i would request a cleanup of the article, and possibly a shortening as some parts don't quite make sense such as a grunt being named "Lighter Than Some" and that the covenant go from their seventh age to their 9th age. i would make corrections myself, but i do not have the book and while i do believe this article to mostly be what happens, i feel that the names and certain reasons(why Truth wants to kill the sanghelli) are greatly needed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Discopete117 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I have a curious question. Why are you suggesting what needs to be added if you've never read the book? Hunter076 20:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree. It is sloppy, and there are a number of facts that the original writer got wrong. Regardless of this, it is a start. I went through and started cleaning it up, correcting names, species, etc. --ShakataGaNai 07:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
If I have time this weekend, I will rewrite this article from scratch, while I think that most of the wildly inaccurate parts are gone, there is still alot of plot missing. Also, most of the article is worded very awkwardly. Mad031683 16:27, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar Issues

Ok, I have a serious problem with most of the grammar and spelling on this page. "Lighter-THEN-Some"? And last time I checked, you don't "explode" something, you "blow it up", or something along those lines. Now, I don't have this book yet (soon to be remedied) but I still think these issues need to be cleared up. Hunter076 20:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

While the proper name of the character is "Lighter Than Some" (strange as it might be), its a minor oversight. Also, rather than noting grammar problems here, could you consider making the change yourself? I've been working on fixing up the plot synopsis, I did fix that "explode" part though (just for you ^_^). You may feel free to correct what I've written though, I don't claim to be a world class author. --ShakataGaNai 07:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Apologies. I do realize that it was perhaps uncordial of me to request changes without making the effort of them myself, however, only having internet access during the week from my school places a rather major damper over my editing abilities. Thank you very much for the changes you made, though! ^^ Hunter076 17:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I was making edits, but it appears someone got there first. Though I did edit the new material a bit to make it run more smoothly. Hunter076 17:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Oops Hunter076, I think I may have stepped on your edits there, I was doing a big rewrite of alot of it, its far from perfect (far from good, probably) I'm done working on it for now so I so feel free to make any changes you see fitMad031683 18:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, the changes you made were rather beneficial. Hunter076 20:46, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

However, it appears that someone took out the last paragraph, which I think was not needed to be deleted. I shall put it back. Hunter076 20:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, upon further reflection, I figure I shall wait for a second opinion. Anyone else think it should be brought back? Hunter076 20:50, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Which last paragraph? The one covering the epilogue? I think the problem is that the epilogue is confusing. The way I read it: AI Mack hiding in his JOTUNS, and that is all he can do. He is trying to talk to AI Sif, but Sif is dead - and Mack knows this, but it makes him happy to think she might be listening. All I think this epilogue establishes: The AIs had feelings; that Mack, Loki and Sif are all dead; and the covenant are glassing the planet COMPLETELY. I think the interpretation that was there was wrong - but again - this is just what I think. --ShakataGaNai 05:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, alright. I still haven't read it, so I shall take your word for it. Hunter076 04:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In-universe

This page has some real problems with the in-universe perspective, I just finished reading the book so I'll see if I can't clean it up a bit Mad031683 16:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean "in-universe perspective"? --ShakataGaNai 05:24, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Articles on fiction are supposed to take a real-world perspective. They aren't supposed to sound like they were written by somebody in the fictional universe, Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction) explains it better. Mad031683 16:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok. Yet another policy I didn't know about. Makes sense to me. --ShakataGaNai 08:59, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page Number

he amount of pages is inaccurate. I shall remedy it. Hunter076 21:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA

Take the adjectives out. --andreasegde (talk) 22:38, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Uh... could you be more specific in context? David Fuchs (talk) 22:45, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

Very nice, well referenced. I've only put it on hold for one reason. I absolutely couldn't follow the second paragraph of the plot summary. Once that is copy-edited I'll pass it. Wrad (talk) 01:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Now that I reread it I agree it was awkwardly worded. I've tried to clarify; if you still can't make heads or tails of it, can you point out which parts in particular are hard to follow? David Fuchs (talk) 01:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Lots better. Wrad (talk) 01:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, hey, be sure to add a fair-use rationale to that image. Wrad (talk) 04:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)