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hey ..i possess a diary products factory and halloumi these days appear yellow from the inside and some time some brown dots appear in it,...why?

Although there are different opinions regarding the origin of the word, halloumi/hellim and before the known sides of Cyprus start to use this delicious white and innocent thing as a source of their everlasting nonsense arguments over… well, everything, let us have a look at what Kyriakos Hadji-Ioannou says of this white stuff in his Etymological dictionary of the spoken Cypriot dialect (1996). Hadji-Ioannou suggests that the word is originally derived from the Arabic word “khllum”, which means cheese and further claims that the product goes back to Egypt where it was initially made. The words hallom in Iraq, helloum in Lebanon and halloum in Syria are some other dialectic variations[1][2] Please keep Turkmenistan, Kazakistan, Byzantine, Ottomans, invasions, politics and etc. out of this food and its origins. Till this very day, hellim/halloumi managed to remain clean of politics and other artificial substances. I intend to remember it as the delicious white cheese that goes along with a plate of cold watermelon in summer evenings, or the white stuff in a nice sandwich. However, if your intensions are still to use it for politics, then leave this one at least to work towards unification and peace and not towards hatred and internet wars. Finally, it is my wish that whatever this food is called, it does not get the dirts of anyone's politics on it. I hope it is not too late Thanks...

--Simal 23:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Halloumi and why it is a Cypriot ancient product.

If we take the word HALLOUMI and etymologize it, the truth will appear it self. I am asking those countries who claim the origin of Halloumi, to etymologise the word Halloumi in their own language to proove if the word mean anything to their language and especially if the meaning of the word has any logicall connection with the cheese Halloumi. I am using the etymology of the word, because as deferent claimers say, the Halloumi cheese is firstly made in their place. So, its logical, their forefathers gave to the product a local name , a name from their own language. So we waiting to hear from the claimers how long back to the time the word halloumi is used in their encient language and what it mean etymologycally, Especially for the Turks claimers, i am advising them to go back to their Turkmenistan ancient language, and not to their today language as their today language is full of Greek words taken from the Greek population who never left their homes ( when the Ottoman Turks invated the Byzantine land the 13th, 14th centuries A.D.) until today and we talking for few millions of people. Everybody knows that the native language of the population of the Byzantine empire , from Greece to Efrates reaver of minus asia was the Greek language.This is history and i appologise to the Turks if this last sentence annoy some of them. I know that the majority of the Turks respect the historical realities. So, the etymology of the word HALLOUMI which word is greek and it is used only in Cyprus is the following. HA .....=the root which mean LIQUID(water and any sort of liquid)

             see - hail -in english ( halaza in greek )
             see - honey-in english = thickened liquid.
             see - Lochnest = nest with water(LAKE in SCOTTLAND)
             see - hydrotherapy

L .....=the root which mean LIQUID

             see - land- = soil surrounded with water.
             see - life- = presence of liquid
             see - lava -=the lava of the volcano=running lliquid

U .....=the root which mean TO CONCENTRATE, TO KEEP TOGETHER

             see - unify -= to keep together
             see - universe -= everything together

M .....=the root which mean to Keep, not to go

             see - memory -= what is not goin away
             see -  mine -= ie this is mine=is not going away from
                             me.

I ......-=the root which mean to expand

             see - infinite

I used greek words which are in the english language in order to be more understandable. So HALUMI in the very ancient greek language, preHomer,before the first millenium and we still using it like thousand of other words it mean: THE CONCENTRADED LIQUID ( the milk) WHICH CAN NOT GET DISOLVED = HALUMI

Thank you for reading me Theodoros Hadjichristodoulou Pafos Cyprus Τel: 00357 99675243 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Synainou (talk • contribs) 13:07, 27 October 2006.


Thank goodness that's sorted out. Naturenet | Talk 20:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POD & Halloumi

I think it may be better to have another article talking about the "Cyprus POD halloumi" if some users insist to restrain this Middle Eastern cheese to one geographical place there. I'm quite sure that this type of cheese is prepared all over the Middle East in the same scale of it in Cyprus. Having a POD is kind of commercial thing. This is Wikipedia, not the WTO. And in the halloumi case, it is only in USA. Thus, should still having some users insist to restrain the origin and name's translation, disturb the title and content of the article, it may be better to separate this article to "Halloumi" and "Cyprus POD halloumi".

The POD thing is already mentioned within, and clearly saying it is only in US. No need to suppress telling the origin of this cheese. Otherwise, we may create articles also about the Lebanese halloumi, Syrian halloumi, Palestinian halloumi and Turkish halloumi... etc!!! Ralhazzaa (talk) 16:24, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


Your point is? Scott Anafas (talk) 03:50, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] removed text

I've removed some of the text:

Cypriots like eating halloumi with watermelon in the warm months. No Cypriot meze menu would be complete without halloumi and lounza. This dish is simply a combination of halloumi cheese and either a slice of smoked pork, or a soft lamb sausage (opinion appears to differ on which is the true lounza) simply layered one on top of the other and then grilled. Halloumi is also often used in bacon sandwiches, but also makes a satisfying dish on its own or with salad. The very best halloumi is that made from unpasteurised sheep and goats milk. Many people still make this, but not in any quantity, so it really is an occasional treat. Many people also like halloumi that has been aged, it is much dryer, much stronger and much saltier. It is easy to find this much better product in specialist shops, It is kept in its own brine, and you usually have to ask for it. Halloumi from a packet is just not the same thing at all.

I've put it here, because I don't want to just chuck it, but the claims about "this is the best" aren't encyclopaedic. If it can be turned into something more appropriate (cited, less subjective), I'd be happy to see much of it back in there. Pseudomonas(talk) 12:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I have put the paragraph back

But have taken out the bits about a lovingly made artisan cheese being a better product than that made by a machine en mass. If others feel that that is innapropriate, then i will comply and leave them to chew on their tasteless squeeky cheese. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotspury (talk • contribs) 22:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] and what the hell

is this doing in the greek section of anything, and why is there a link to greek cheeses on the page. outside cyprus and the levant, Halloumi is just not part of the food culture —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotspury (talk • contribs) 22:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)