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[edit] New Airport Name?

Shouldn't this be moved to Halifax Stanfield International Airport, and redirect everything else to it (i.e. Halifax International Airport, Halifax/Robert L. Stanfield International Airport, Halifax Airport, Stanfield International Airport etc.)? Toronto Pearson International Airport would be the best example we should be following. 24.222.149.230 20:48, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree and I did that shortly after 2pm AST when PM Harper made it official (see the edit history). For some reason it was reverted and I was admonished to "discuss" it first and look at the Toronto Pearson example. I'm not sure what I did wrong as this is the exact name of the new airport and it follows the YYZ article template exactly!!! Anyway, this is a frustrating revert that was completely unnecessary as now all the edit histories are going to be messed up and we'll need admin help to move it to the proper Halifax Stanfield International Airport page. Any assistance in moving it back would be appreciated.Plasma east 23:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
An admin will not help you move an article out-of-process. If a move is reverted, the procedure is to add a move request. If there is a consensus to move, then it will be done. DB (talk) 05:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Furthermore, those links shouldn't have been changed unless the edits were incorporated into another edit. See WP:REDIRECT. DB (talk) 06:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Should this be just "Robert L. Stanfield International Airport" the name is not Halifax Stanfield --D052 00:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

You know a link to a source of the new name would be a really good idea. I shouldn't have to go digging around to find one. And according to that source it's new name is "Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport" and not "Halifax Stanfield International Airport" nor as is given in the article "Halifax/Robert L. Stanfield International Airport". Another example would be Winnipeg James Armstrong Richardson International Airport where the name was announced here and the new name was used almost right away. I would support a move to Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport because that is the only name the government have announced. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 11:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Halifax Stanfield International Airport is the most likely common name that will be used or simply stanfield airport, as this is how local news stations referred to it. I agree Robert L. Stanfield International Aiport is the "Official Name", however I don't see too many people taking the time to call it that. They don't call Boston's airport "General Edward Lawrence Logan International Airport", they call it Logan International Airport. The Same Goes for Toronto Pearson International Airport. I don't think we should follow Winnipeg's example since most people are not going to search for Winnipeg James Armstrong Richardson International Airport.379hfx 15:41, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I do agree with that. However, it seems that Halifax Stanfield can't be the common name yet, since it was just renamed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt people are calling it Stanfield already? DB (talk) 16:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Here we go again (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports#Airport article names revisited). My arguments against the common name are that for most people it will be "the airport", "Halifax airport", "Stanfield airport" or "Halifax Internationl" (without the word airport). The other problem with common name is suppose people in Halifax call it "Stanfield airport" but everybody else calls it "Halifax Standfield Airport"? I think the official name, as used by the airport authority, is where the article should be as we can't say for sure what the common name is right now, or will be in the future. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know whether to support or oppose. I'm sure that right now if you talked with a bunch of people from Halifax (and away), most would call the airport by either Halifax Airport or Halifax International (not counting "the airport" for obvious reasons). As others have mentioned, it's very hard to say what will be the common name in the future, once the new name of the airport catches on. So I would say I'm leaning towards going with the official name, Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport. Besides, isn't this why God created redirect pages? hfx_chris 00:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE NOT MOVED -- as there was no consensus for the move per discussion below. --Philip Baird Shearer 13:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Halifax International Airport → Halifax Stanfield International Airport or Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport– The Airport is being called by the local media as Stanfield now, as well as people at the airport. And as for the common name, Airport is the most common name for people in Halifax so, pick an option from above379hfx 15:41, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" or other opinion in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

  • Oppose - How can anyone know what the common name is for an airport that was just renamed a few days ago? The fact that the airport authority just renamed it is not going to cause everyone to start calling it Stanfield. WP policy says to use common names in article titles, and the common name is still Halifax International. DB (talk) 16:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Support - I agree that the common name is still Halifax International Airport, however every other airport that has been renamed uses the new name. We should atleast call it Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport. It is disrespectful to Stanfield's family to not. 24.137.93.40 17:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Support move to Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport as the airport is probably not at the common name now anyway and should be at the official name. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment - how is Halifax International not a common name? DB (talk) 01:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
      • Reply - "Halifax Internationl" may be the common name but I doubt that "Halifax International Airport" is the common name. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 02:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
        • That issue came up in another discussion. Adding "Airport" to the common name doesn't violate any naming policies, it serves to clarify that the article is referring to an aiport. DB (talk) 03:16, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
          • Nor does a general agreement that the articles be at an official name violate WP:NAME. Neither can we say with any certainty what is the most common name. We can guess what it is in Halifax but more people outside may use something different and then that would be the common name. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Support - I live in the city they are already using the name. The Signs on the highway have been changed, all the anouncements in the aiport refer to it as such. Stanfield was highly respected in NS and the name has been adopted very quickly as many feel it was an appropriate choice. --Meanie 13:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Support move to Halifax Stanfield International Airport with redirects from Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport and Halifax International Airport, as per the Toronto Pearson International Airport article. The new common name is Halifax Stanfield - my friend took an Air Canada flight to Halifax today and they were greeted with this term upon landing... Can also check the airport authority's website[1]Plasma east 05:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment - That website you quoted says "Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport" and not just "Halifax Stanfield International Airport". And Toronto is not a good example. The name is incorporated because there is more than one airport open to airline service in that city. AirOdyssey (Talk) 06:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
      • Comment - Just because Air Canada used it once does not make it the most common name world wide. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
        • Comment - if it's going to be moved, Halifax Stanfield International would certainly be better than the full name. No one is going to search for or refer to it as "Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International". The idea of common use is not always a concrete thing. It's not always possible to determine what actually will be the commonly used name; however, it is possible in this case to determine what won't be common use. DB (talk) 19:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
          • Also, the Airport Authority website still calls it Halifax International everywhere except for the article mentioning the name change. If you don't want the commonly used name, wouldn't it at least make sense to use the name the airport authority uses? DB (talk) 02:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment - for the record, I would also strongly support a move to Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport without redirects since that is clearly the actual name of the airport--D052 23:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
      • Before mocking my comments, you should try learning how to read WP policy. DB (talk) 01:57, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose move per DB. The point AirOdyssey makes about more than one airport for a city is also especially relevant. Gene Nygaard 21:04, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose because the requested title isn't even the name of the airport! What's the point of being more correct if it isn't? Halifax International/Halifax Airport is arguably still the most common name. Voretus 20:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
      • Comment - Pick one; Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport or Halifax Stanfield International Airport. I'm going to change it one way or the other, and those who aren't from Halifax have no opinion as far as I'm concerned. 379hfx 00:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC) Pick one; Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport or Halifax Stanfield International Airport. We need consensus on the new name 379hfx 22:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
        • It doesn't work that way. There has to be consensus to move. If there isn't one, it doesn't get moved. Furthermore, your edit history only shows edits to this page, and since there is already a suspected sockpuppet involved, your comments may also be discounted. DB (talk) 04:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Support - I work at the airport and I would say the Halifax Robert L. Stanfield International Airport is the best name since it is Official. I hear people refer to it as Stanfield already but most people call it "The Airport". DB says use the common name, well let me tell you there is no common name so he is out to lunch if he thinks there is one. Read [Talk:Winnipeg_James_Armstrong_Richardson_International_Airport] and see that DB is trying to change their airport name too. Shorens 01:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Please note that this comment was created by a newly registered user (this is his or her only edit) and therefore it may be a sockpuppet. DB (talk) 04:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Suspected sockpuppetry
The following users have no edits except for this debate. I strongly suspect that one or more may be a sockpuppet:

DB (talk) 04:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Move this article

The airport authority calls it Halifax Stanfield International Airport so I think the article needs moving. 379hfx (talk) 20:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

And I've moved it back. If you look further up you will see that there already was a discussion on this with no consensus to move. The correct way to do it is open a discussion first and then move later if consensus is reached. Not the other way round. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

It won't need discussion now since the Airport is now called Halifax Stanfield International Airport, the signs at the airport call it that, and there are dozens of refrences, like Environment Canada, the Airport Authority, the media. It's actually hard to find anywhere who uses the old term "Halifax International Airport". Also I noticed you CBW, moved Saskatoon with only one person who agreed and you did not open a proper discussion.379hfx (talk) 13:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Yep and that was my error. I should have never made a major move without discussing first. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

It's okay your forgiven, so let's open a discussion. 379hfx (talk) 14:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

The name Halifax International Airport is obsolete, and it is the only airport in Canada on wikipedia that has been renamed and still has its old name. There are numerous sources that call it Halifax Stanfield International Airport, the most important being the airport authority since this argument has been used for other airports. Other sources include:

-Airport Website, Airport Signage inside and outside terminal, including welcome message over PA system
-Canadian Airports Council
-Canadian Borders Service Agency
-Environment Canada
-Halifax Regional Municipality's website
-Nova Scotia Provincial Government Website
-Greater Halifax Partnership
-Destination Nova Scotia
-Nova Scotia life (provinces tourism site)
-Destination Halifax
-The weather network
-Halifax Chamber of Commerce
-CBC
-CTV
-NEWS 95.7
-Halifax Daily News
-Halifax Chronicle Herald

....And the list goes on 379hfx (talk) 14:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

If no one opposes the move from Halifax International Airport to Halifax Stanfield International Airport, then the page will be renamed 379hfx (talk) 23:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)