Talk:Hal Blaine and the Wrecking Crew

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Mentioning Hal Blaine without Joe Osborn is the equivalent of mentioning Lennon without McCartney. And speaking of McCartney, he, along with Osborn and James Jamerson were clearly the most influential and recorded bassists of the sixties.

the world is full of references to Lennon without McCartney, and visa versa. It would be interesting to find out how many songs Blaine & Osborn played on together, but Blaine also played with many other bassists including Carol Kaye, Ray Pohlman, Lyle Ritz and Jimmy Bond. Carptrash 01:31, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: "And speaking of McCartney, he, along with Osborn and James Jamerson were clearly the most influential and recorded bassists of the sixties."

Since Paul McCartney played bass guitar during the sixties with the Beatles only, there is very little chance he was one of the three most "recorded bassists of the sixties". Carol Kaye, for example, probably recorded in a typical week more tracks than McCartney recorded in a year. Influence is a nebulous thing, but I think we can reasonably argue that McCartney's influence as a bass guitarist is likely due more to his position in such a famous group rather than to anything particular about his playing. You might just as well allege that Ringo's drumming and John Lennon's and George Harrison's guitar playing were equally influential--for the same reason.

Re: "Mentioning Hal Blaine without Joe Osborn is the equivalent of mentioning Lennon without McCartney":

Maybe you mean "the equivalent of mentioning Lennon without McCartney in the sixties ", but you may note that Lennon released four non-Beatles albums and two non-Beatles hit singles in the sixties, that he authored (solely) two popular books, and that during the sixties he was commonly considered to be the leader of the Beatles. I would argue that there were very good reasons even then to mention Lennon without McCartney, and I would guess he was far more often mentioned without McCartney then than McCartney was mentioned without Lennon. In the seventies, of course, the two had quite separate careers. (Considering that Ringo played drums on every track of Lennon's first post-Beatles LP and that George Harrison played guitar on several tracks of Lennon's second post-Beatles LP, it would actually make more sense in the seventies to link Lennon with Ringo or Harrison.) TheScotch 08:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

So we can agree. No need to mention Osborn in the same breath as Blaine? Carptrash 14:00, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

No need, indeed--especially if one's breath is short, as mine does not seem to be above. TheScotch 21:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

It was a nice comment. I'm NOT a Less is more kind of a guy. I'm an Oliver, Could I have more? kind of a guy. More is more. I like more. As we used to say in the 60s, Write On!! Carptrash 00:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)