User talk:Haipa Doragon

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Hello, Haipa Doragon, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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[edit] Places in OoT

If you don't agree with any of my edits, feel free to talk to me about them.

To explain my "purify" thing - you can enter the temples in almost any order, but the "purification" - what the game calls it when you complete the Temple - can be ordered by what order you get the Medallions in, as that is how the game orders it.

- Uhm... where does it mention purification? Does anyone say that?

It says:

Now, Link, break the curses on all of the Temples, and return peace to Hyrule!!

I took that to mean purifying as removing a curse, but if you just want to say "break the curse on", that's fine as well.KrytenKoro

For Well of Three Features - that is the well's name, according to the game. "Bottom of the Well" isn't an actual landmark, it's a relational position. For example, you wouldn't say "Above Hyrule Castle", you'd just say "Hyrule Castle".

- I would consider the name that appears as you enter the dungeon to be the true name, as the game itself "says" it to you formally, while the sign is just something someone put up to warn everyone else of the dangers inside, and hasn't had a lot of thought put into it. Nintendo and most related sites, guides, etc. also use the name, so I'd say it's official.

Most guides, Nintendo's site, etc. also call Gohma "Queen Gohma", even though that's not the name the game uses. If we are talking "places in Ocarina of Time", then it needs to be the actual places.KrytenKoro

For the Din's Fire thing - we don't need to get into game-guide area, which is where that was going. Same thing with a lot of the "treasure necessary to do whatever" - we're talking about the places, not the items within them.

For the Shadow Temple - it's built around only one abyss - there are others, but they are not the center of the temple. Also, it's not built around the ship - there is a ship there, but that's not part of the architecture.

- The ship is a major feature of the temple though, it should be mentioned.

Possibly, though the fact that it sinks puts a limit on how much a part of the temple it is. However, the structure for that section is the structure of the temple - the ship isn't in the schematics, even if it is in the temple.

For the Lost Woods - if you look at it, the Kokiri Woods is actually inside the Lost Woods - it is surrounded on at least three sides by them, and probably the last.

"favourite" - I know that is the correct spelling in Britain and other British-English speaking countries, but Wikipedia denotes it as not the preferred spelling, so favorite is used.

- Sorry, it's a habit, I have a spell checker in Firefox set onto British English (although, technically, England is the country where the English language originated, so Wikipedia should use its version =P).

That's fine.

Placement of Deku Tree - just trying to keep sub-areas first, dungeons last in the region organization.

-Right; I just think that it's more logical to order them chronologically, although I don't mind too much either way.

Well, chronologically would open the placement into a lot of debate, since the order isn't that rigid - having a rigid structure helps keep arguments from happening.KrytenKoro

Thanks for your help!KrytenKoro 19:12, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

This is the proper way of discussing things on Wikipedia, isn't it? Tell me if I'm wrong. Haipa Doragon 19:37, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Technically, you should be replying on my page, so that I know that you actually replied - otherwise, I'll never know unless I happen to come over here again, like this time.KrytenKoro

Yes, I know that they call the OoT Gohma "Queen Gohma" - however, the game clearly calls it just "Parasitic Armored Arachnid Gohma". That's the reason that I think for that kind of thing we should use directly what the game tells us a thing's name is - and the game has a sign outside the well that calls it the Well of Three Features.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you really want to call it the Bottom of the Well, then the section should only focus on the dungeon part of it - it should mention that it's part of the Well of Three Features, but other than that, it shouldn't talk about anything that happens to the well outside of the dungeon portion. Since the blurb is so small, I guess we can change it a little to reflect this, but it just seems to me that it should be talking about the actual landmark, not just the dungeon. I don't know - just fix it so that it is talking about the dungeon primarily. However - it was the well itself that imprisoned Bongo Bongo, and the well itself that was drained. So the rewording should be something like "this is a dungeon that is accessible after Link drains the well of three features, which once imprisoned the demon Bongo-Bongo", or something like that (better worded, mainly).KrytenKoro 22:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: History of Video Game Consoles (Seventh Generation) - GP2X

Please sign your comments with ~~~~. I have nothing against the removal, but I think you should have posted in the discussion page and awaited a response first. Just64helpin 20:31, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps I should make my view clearer. I have no particular interest in whether the content stays or goes. My worry was in the abruptness of the removal. Just64helpin 16:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

This is exactly what I was worried about. Just64helpin 16:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Triforce - Ocarina of Time rumors

Just to confirm my revert, this symbol does actually appear in MM. The description of it on this article isn't very clear though, so I may rewrite it. Haipa Doragon 12:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I deleted that section mostly because it was worded horribly, and partly because I didn't remember any references to the Triforce in that game, inverted or not. I haven't played it for a few years, so I wouldn't be surprised if one is there, but I reworded the statement to sound more civilized. Forteblast 17:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Undead Masks

I know that they really shouldn't be sectioned off like that, but that info (that the masks make the Redeads dance and the Gibdos harmless) is somewhat relevant to the article. If you could figure out some way to integrate it into the other section, that would be great.KrytenKoro 17:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Enemies in The Legend of Zelda series

Since TTN decided to go ahead with gutting the page (once he had decided to, I helped, so that it would be done with), I copied the data to User:KrytenKoro/Enemies in The Legend of Zelda series. It's not truly userfied, but it preserves all that was there before the list was gutted. We can work on it there, if you want, and I put some reasonable guidelines on the talk page, to keep it from becoming the problem article that got it so heavily cracked-down on. (Of course, the guidelines are always up for discussion - I was just starting with what I thought was wise). Once we get it cleaned up and more proper-ized, we can re-merge it. Or try to, I don't know.KrytenKoro 21:51, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] KrytenKoro Enemies page - ChuChu and Buzz Blob

Since the enemies are essentially different versions of the same thing (like Sparks, Bubbles, and Anti-Fairies), I amassed their info together. However, both the split ChuChu article and the Buzz Blob section were a bit crufty, so I boiled it down to notes. I'm going to try rewriting it, but at the very least I'm going to need help on the references, if not the whole rewrite. Thanks!KrytenKoro 02:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

PS: The notes are on the Talk page.

[edit] Response: The Legend of Zelda templates

I don't see why the main series template is not needed on the individual game pages. What is your reason for removing them? Haipa Doragon (talk) 12:26, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

There was a specific game template made that only has games on it. If the main and the game templates where never ment to be separated then they would have never been split. So only the specific template should be on the game page. If you think they should be remerged bring it up on the series template talk page not with me.→041744 12:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Uh, I asked for your reason as to why the main template is not needed on the game pages, not just your mere opinion on the matter. To me, it is completely appropriate. Haipa Doragon (talk) 13:08, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

You said my opinion is irrelevant then you put in your own comment which by your standard is also irrelevant. Any way back to the discussion, the template needs to relevant to each page it is on. Links link Hyrule and Weapons and Items are not that closely related to each individual game page despite that they are all chained together by being in the same series. This disscussion seems to be going nowhere; I cannot persade you and you cannot persade me. Perhaps you should take this up on the template's talk page that is in question.→041744 18:36, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

(EDIT) Yes I will in the future go the talk page instead of making rash edits, but still I stand with my opinion, "I cannot persade you and you cannot persade me. Perhaps you should take this up on the template's talk page that is in question."→041744 00:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Enemies

I've been trying to clean it up. I'm probably going to do "appears in" in comments so that if Alex's template thing pans through, we can have the info already done. But no majora overhauls, though.KrytenKoro 17:51, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beamos

It combined the beam type and rotation type bits, allowing the removal of most of the TWW section, simplifies the FSA section, and shortens the introductory bit without sacrificing verifiability. Also, your ALttP section is completely unneeded - their invulnerability is already mentioned above, and the other miniscule details are cosmetic only. It also removes the redundancy from the FSA section (like invulnerable, but destructible - just say "destructible")KrytenKoro 02:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dungeon (The Legend of Zelda series)

I have a question regarding the following statement located within the "Ocarina of Time" portion of the article: "There is also for the first time an optional dungeon, gaining Link an extra item if he completes it." What dungeon are you referring to? In my recollection, the only two "side dungeons" are the "Ice Cavern" and the "Bottom of the Well", both of which, though they are out of the way, offer items essential to the completion of the game. A dungeon (which, if I remember correctly, would be according to the definition afforded it in the walkthrough guide offered by Prima Games, and which I think of as being an accurate and viable definiton) is any place in which you can obtain a map and compass (and I would add, in these cases, major items). Please help me understand if I am incorrect. Thanks.Cocoapropo 23:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Official

So how is Zelda not an RPG? —Preceding unsigned comment added by V-Dash (talk • contribs) 02:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture for video game

I reverted back to the picture of SuperTux. The picture is a free use alternative, see WP:FUC, #1. The game is similar enough to Super Mario Bros. to identify a video game. For further discussion, please post onto Talk:Video game. Thanks! --Jtalledo (talk) 07:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia: MoS

"Captions always start with a capital letter. Most captions are not complete sentences, but merely an extended phrase which should not finish with a period. Complete sentences in captions always end in a period." The text in question is not a full sentence and thus shouldn't end with a full stop. Thanks. Ashnard _Talk ^Contribs 11:12, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ocarina of time pic

Something like this better [[1]] --ZeWrestler ^Talk 03:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I've returned the original picture that was removed to the audio section. I discovered at the GA Review of the article that it was removed because of lack of sourcing information. I have added the requested info. --ZeWrestler ^Talk 15:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Nintendo Page Redesign

A new page design is being considered for the WikiProject Nintendo page. A rough draft can be viewed here. Please add all comments and thoughts to the discussion. From the automated, Anibot 22:45, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Previously unexplored

The reason I changed the Phantom Hourglass portion of the article to read "previously unexplored" is because Link probably hasn't explored the area before he obtains the corresponding sea chart, so for him, the areas are previously unexplored. I realize that may sound redundant, but all areas have been explored at some point, just not necessarily by Link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cocoapropo (talk • contribs) 03:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Revert of edit by Froth on Nintendo

There wasn't anything wrong with reverting his last edit, but you should be more careful with what you call vandalism, he could easily have been led to believe the false information (Nintendo's founding date) from an error on a website, magazine, etc.. Only claim vandalism when it's obvious, and per WP:Vandalism#What vandalism is not (although I would assume you've seen that by now). Haipa Doragon (talk) 21:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, and sorry, I assumed vandalism, because Froth changed a message left by someone else, that was intended to tell people that the date was right (and asked for it not to be changed), into a misleading message, even a quick scan of the article would have proven the original date to be right (as this wasn't changed, only the date at the top of the article was changed), and as such, unfit for change! Though if there is an easier term than "Vandalism" to use in such matters, I will gladly use it (I didn't mean any trouble). Doktor Wilhelm 22:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Monsters as a race

I say yes because a sufficent number have shown free wil and intelligence. They should be added for the Dark world alone. Many monsters have been shown to live in peace with Hyrule or even help link. Want me to make a list? Delsait 20:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ganon Image

That image is the official art of Ganon from ALttP, and is large enough to actually illustrate the character sufficiently. However, I am apparently very bad at uploading image rationales, as even though I try to follow the guidelines, they always get tagged and deleted despite my contesting the claim. Could you upload it?Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 22:14, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I think yes

Can you revert his changes, I've already done 4 today. The Placebo Effect 01:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

BTW, he's on his third revert , so if he does it again, you van report, him, bt if you do , report me also. The Placebo Effect 01:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] post removal

It is very appropriate to remove an anonymous IP's post if they are calling another editor a 'dumbass'. The post had no real significance for the talk page, so it is a non-issue deleting it. Please explain your reasoning if you think otherwise. ---- LN3000 (talk) 21:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Haha! Yeah, that's another good reason! Keep up the good work. --LN3000 (talk) 00:24, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Goron and Zora "tribe"

From what I've seen going through text dumps, they are only called "races" in OoT and MM. Nearly every game since then has called them tribe, and I can't find any that still say "race".

PH: No uses of race, all groups are called "tribes" (Goron, Anouki, Yook, Zora, indirectly, Cobble)
TP: tribe used for Goron, Twili, Zora, Shiekah (in reference). "Tribes" is used to refer to the multiple species that have learned to "love hot springs". Sometimes qualified by "Death Mountain's Goron Tribe"
TMC: "tribe" used for Wind Tribe, no other name for groups given
FSA: "tribe" used for Gorons, Dark Tribe, Gerudo, Zuna. "folk", for Bird folk, is only other group name used
TWW: "tribe" used for Rito, Kokiri. No other group name used
OoS: No group name used
OoA: No group name used
MM: Race used once by Keaton for Goron, and Zora, Tribe used for Goron and Zora by members, as well as ancient tribe. Sheikah is mentioned at one point, 族 left off of this, and most of the others, like in OoT
OoT: "Race" used for Shiekah, Gerudo, Goron, Kokiri, and Zora. Otherwise, 族 is left off
LA: No uses for either
ALttP: Tribe used once, to refer to evil tribe

I can't get a look at the Japanese for OoS and OoA, but OoT and MM were the only times "race" was used, and most of the time, 族 was just dropped instead of being translated. However, at least by TWW, it was being translated nearly every time as "tribe", in rare cases being dropped like before. For those listed above, "tribe" is appropriate.

Unfortunately for my case, the animals are only ever called animals, even in the animal village. So I guess I can't call it the "Animal Tribe" anymore, even though parts of it clearly seem to be at tribe/race level.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 08:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Improving The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass to Featured Article status

I am improving The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass to Featured Article status and noticed that you made substantial changes to the article recently. If you have time, I would be delighted if you could help out with this project. Thanks! Gary King (talk) 03:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)