Talk:Hair (musical)

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To-do list for Hair (musical):
  • Expand lede
  • Social Change
  • Use of songs from the show at anti-war protests and the show's influence on the anti-war movement
http://michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/articles/HairArticles/NYMag1-70.html
Apollo 13 Lunar Module called Aquarius after song: http://michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/articles/HairArticles/Variety6-18-70.html
  • Mass at Divine
http://michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/articles/HairArticles/NYT5-10-71.html
http://michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/articles/HairArticles/Time5-24-71.html
http://michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/articles/HairArticles/NYT6-71.html
  • Dramatics
  • Application to other productions
  • Nude scene
  • Meaning of Tribe; Indian motif (some could go in themes?)


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[edit] Theme section

Hey thanks MM for the To do list! .. that's really helpful. So got us started on an expanded Theme section. Right now I'm wondering if we might want to combine some themes since the list get a little lengthy in the TOC. Suggestions might be "Religion and Astrology", "Pacifism and Environmentalism", or we could get cute with "Sexuality and Drugs". Race is (imho) one of the biggest Themes and needs a lot more stuff. I'll put my brain on it and add some more in the next week or so. - Mblaxill (talk) 21:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I combined a couple of the shorter sections - looks OK? -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
OK for now. Possibly a little clunky. Can we give some of the themes smaller subheds under a larger themed heds so they're not in the TOC? I dunno .. just throwing it our there - Mblaxill (talk) 23:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad you like the to-do. Always easier to see what needs to be done that way.
I'm sorry I've been relatively MIA these last few days -- lots of stuff IRL. I've got some ideas to get in there, and I will probably be able to sometime this week. I have some stuff to add to some of the themes that we've combined, so I'll probably end up uncombining them. — MusicMaker5376 15:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree with MB, that it would be preferable to shorten the TOC. I think Maria told me at one point that there is a way to get the TOC to ignore the subheadings in a section. Do you know it, or if not, can you check with her? It didn't sound like it was for technophobes. All the best. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
That doesn't sound like it's impossible -- there's probably a magic word for it. I'll look into it. — MusicMaker5376 15:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, no magic word, but.... I can use {{TOClimit}} where the limit refers to the heading level. If I set it to 2, it will only show the main headings, and if I set it to 3, it'll show everything. It looks like there are ways to create single headings that won't show up, but the technobabble is a little beyond me. I'm not sure where to put the code that is says to use, nor am I sure that it would be something the average not-signed-in user will be able to use. I'm gonna have to ask someone.... — MusicMaker5376 16:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
OK, so you could either set it to 2, and get all the subheadings off the table, which is fine with me, or you could set it to 3 and then add an = (equal sign) before and after the subheadings we don't want to see so that they will not be picked up by the TOC. Hmmmm. Maybe I like this technology stuff after all. The problem is, I won't remember this tomorrow. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, I think (and I could be wrong) that the MOS advises against using the wrong level heading. IE: there shouldn't be a third-level heading with no second-level heading. I could definitely set it to 2, but I want to look into the individual heading option a little more. Since I have my TOCs set to off, you're going to have to let me know how things look. — MusicMaker5376 17:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dramatics.

Meh. Lemme know what you think. — MusicMaker5376 03:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

It's a good start, but it needs to talk about how the same dramatics were applied to more than just the B'way production. I think there's also information about how the choreography was intended to assist the drama, etc.... -- Ssilvers (talk)
this is the kind of thing i know little about and will be very little help on .. Sorry! I like it so far though!! - Mblaxill (talk) 20:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Local Reactions to Regional Prods

Hey I noticed that we left the info about Minnesota, San Fran hippies, etc out of the Social Change section and kept it under Early Regional Prods. To me it feels a little out of place where it is. Can we find a way to make it fit into Social Change? - Mblaxill (talk) 02:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

My bad. Meant to put it in there. — MusicMaker5376 02:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ref question

In the lede, ref #4 is for a novel. The link leads one to a copy of the cover of the book. I don't understand why that statement even needs sourcing. Anyone? — MusicMaker5376 04:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

This is kind of like your old question about needing to explain the connection between the name of the show and the hippie movement. Just as Michael Butler thought that the show was about American Indians, I think a lot of readers will wonder, what does "Tribe" have to do with Hair and the hippie movement? It took me some time reading this article before I understood that none of the references to Tribe were literal, notwithstanding the pictures of Indians in the posters. But when I saw this book cover in my various researches, I thought of Berger, Claude and Sheila living together, and I thought the book cover instantly explained a major aspect of what Tribe meant to hippies. So, I guess to make a long explanation short, I hope we can reference this book cover, or a similar photo, somewhere in partial explanation of what we mean when we say Tribe, since we do not mean, like, Apache or Blackfoot. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps, instead, we should include an actual explanation. There's quite a bit in Miller about theater as ritual and the summoning of the Tribe during "Aquarius", how each production of Hair chooses a Tribe name, etc. I've been wanting to include some of that info, but wasn't sure how to do it. A section in Dramatics on the Tribe might be warranted. I think that leaving it just as a ref like that may confuse people (as it did me). It looks like we're implying that R&R got their ideas for the Tribe from that book. — MusicMaker5376 15:24, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Sure, it will be much better to pull some info from Miller. I think an explanation of what is meant by "Tribe" will be very helpful. Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)