Talk:Haight-Ashbury

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[edit] Name of this page

The name of this page is incorect. The neighborhood is much more commonly known as the upper haight or sometimes the park district which is the police precinct. I don't believe Haight Ashbury is correct for this neighborhood name.Paul E. Ester 14:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

The current name of this page is the cumbersome and contrived, Haight-Ashbury, San Francisco, California. Why? Is there a conflict with Haight-Ashbury? Apparently not, since that page redirects directly to here. [[neighorbood, city, state]] is a fine convention for neighborhood names that actually conflict with other names. But why burden the name of the main article for Haight-Ashbury with all this clunkiness? Doing so also violates the Wiki convention for common names.

I think this page should be named Haight-Ashbury and the cumbersome Haight-Ashbury, San Francisco, California should remain as a redirect for the 1 in 100,000 users who actually looks it up like that. --Serge 00:01, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Please discuss this at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (city names) rather than spreading the discussion across a dozen talk pages. -Willmcw 01:53, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

The problem with that is that the population that attends to Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (city names) is biased towards those that edit multiple city pages rather than typical users. -Serge 04:54, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Although most residents of the city probably refer to the neighborhood as the Upper Haight, they would also recognize this designation and — more importantly — the "Haight-Ashbury" name is the one that the trillions of visitors would be looking for. I think we should leave it so someone searching or visiting from Alabama or Albania would be just as likely to find what they were looking for as a resident. And I just checked: the Upper Haight was recently created as a redirect. MrRedwood 18:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I live in the Lower Haight. The beginning of the article, as I found it, said that "Upper Haight" refers not to the Haight-Ashbury neighborhood, but to the area in the hills above. I've never heard anyone give "Upper Haight" this meaning; rather, I always understand people to mean "Haight-Ashbury," especially when distinguishing between my neighborhood and the more famous one up Haight Street. I can imagine, however, that people who live on the hillside might give it this meaning. I've modified the opening paragraph to reflect both meanings for "Upper Haight." Comments? Charlie GALVIN 21:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Also: why are there two references to the Diggers in external links when there is no reference to them in the text? MrRedwood 18:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] gap part is misleading

the part about the gap is somewhat misleading. the haight-asbury gap was the first of the chain and was intended for the counterculture--hence the name "gap", as in "generation gap". Therefore, the gap's presence does not represent the neighborhood's "slide into mainstream", but rather the neighborhood as incubator to some commercial trademarks, or something. The same could probably be said about the ben & jerry's.

I came to this discussion page with the same thought. How do you think the article can be changed appropriately? - Slow Graffiti 19:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I've been there recently, and the place is full of homeless people begging for change. It's pretty disgusting. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.96.150.108 (talk) 02:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC).