Talk:Hagarenes
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This page is really really confusing
The material in this article does not in any way represent how scholars treat this term. The term's identity and meaning are contested among historians of early Islam. The first two paragraphs of the article are indeed about the subject, but with some problematic information. The second paragraph is infused with genealogical speculation that has little basis in ancient texts. One would have to speculate that the writer had a theological agenda that is inimical to the mission of Wikipedia.
Much of what appears in the rest of the article (beginning with the third paragraph) demonstrates a serious misunderstanding of Hebrew by conflating the personal name Hagar (Sarah's handmaid in Genesis) with another term, ha-ger ("the alien" or "the stranger"). Although the three Hebrew letters are the same (HGR), they are not the same word. In the latter, the first letter H is the article, ("the" in English). No English translation of the Hebrew Bible would make this mistake. Thus the identity of Hagar and her descendants is confused with laws in the Torah relating to aliens. From the third paragraph on, the material should be deleted.
