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[edit] Alternate history

Not sure about the category 'science fiction novels'. It's an alternative history or recent future novel, certainly, but there's nothing in it which suggests a technology or general world-view any different to the period in which Rolfe was writing. I haven't removed the category, in case others agree with it, but I personally don't think the novel comes under that definition. Cenedi 22:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Alternate history novels are a subcat of Speculative fiction, which is presumably what is meant by "science fiction" here. I agree (although I recall some tech advances in passing.) Septentrionalis 15:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Then what the heck do we call it? It was clearly not an ordinary political novel, even in its time. There is no subcategory of "heirophantic fantasy", although other such novels do exist. I am tentatively restoring the category until we can discuss it.--Orange Mike 18:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Call it "political fantasy". I have read the novel. It’s not alternate history, as it doesn’t have as its plot that something different happened before 1904 to change history up to 1904 (and beyond); rather the action is contemporary (to 1904) or near-future. (I believe uchronia.net has a thorough definition of what is considered alternate history, and I don’t think the novel is in its database.) 4.255.202.202 19:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC)the one who deleted the alternate history category.

Having read that essay, I concur with you. The cat must die! --Orange Mike 19:36, 6 March 2007 (UTC)