Talk:Hadith of the pen and paper

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[edit] Shia POV

>>In another report it is stated that the first person replying, Umar by implication, said that Muhammad was delirious and talking non-sense.<< Give a reference pertaining to this statement, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it's a Shia's point of view.

>>This reply caused a great commotion resulting in Muhammad rebuking Umar for calling him ill and sending him and his partisians out of the house. When ibn Abbas recalled Umar's behavior sixty years later it agonized him so gravely that it caused him to cry [1].<< The references to Bukhari hadiths that you give at the end of this paragraph neither shows that Umar and his partisians ALONE were ordered out of the house, nor does the hadith narrated by Ibn Abbas imply in any way that he was moved to tears by Umar's actions alone. I'm amazed to see how trivial it is to find contrived text with no contextual relation to it's references on Wikipedia, What a Shame! -Hassan

[edit] Removing PROD status

Though there is definitely need for improvement in the encyclopedic nature of this page, to remove it wholesale would deprive many users (such as myself) a valuable source of information about a religion we do not know about. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.169.151.18 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 15 August 2007.

Thanks for your message and the PROD will not be re-instated. However, please do read up on the policies of What Wikipedia is not and No Original Research which dictate what is not allowed. If you can improve this article, then please do so as, although it will not be PROD'ed again, it can be taken to Article for Deletion. Thanks. → AA ^(talk) — 15:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Writing

Isn't it a general belief that Muhammad was illiterate?! So if he was illiteratre, how come this hadiths tells that he wanted to write something?! Assuming that he was no illiterate: does that mean that he himself wrote down the Koran? Or is this hadith a big hoax?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.82.133.241 (talk) 02:14, 10 September 2007 (UTC)