Talk:Hacker Manifesto

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[edit] Dating problems

The dates here and in the Timeline of hacker history are contradictory. Does anyone know better to fix here or there? --Mikkalai 04:32, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Author

The Mentor = Loyd Blankenship - *adds to article*

[edit] Manifesto Removal??

One of the article's revisions back in september removed the actual manifesto itself from the page, and I have since readded it. If anyone can give me a reason for deleting it, please respond to this, but I doubt there are any copyright issues, considering its wide distribution on the internet. --67.184.163.248 21:57, 28 October 2005 (UTC)Ikiroid

Because we try to farm that sort of thing out to WikiSource. --Maru (talk) Contribs 07:38, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Removed. It really belongs on en.wikisource if anywhere, and there is a possible copyvio in principle, as noted on the wikisource stub for it. --Random|832 07:45, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
In that case, could you please add it to Wikisource?
I added it to wikisource, I'll link this entry http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Hacker_Manifesto
It's been deleted as a copyvio and a repost of a copyvio by them. --maru (talk) contribs 22:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I had to remove it again from here (rv edit of 2008-01-02T20:10:19 by 207.42.49.250) --Arnauld (talk) 08:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

having an artical named hacker manifesto is kind of pointless without the actual manifesto included i have re added it again because the actual manifesto IS related to the article sorry if this bunches someones panties

And I'm equally sorry if America's legal system and Wikimedia Foundation rules requires it to be removed. --Gwern (contribs) 22:07 2 May 2008 (GMT)

[edit] NPOV

This article reads like a positive criticism of the Manifesto, and I can't exactly pinpoint what should be changed, but to some point it needs to be neutralized and wikified.--ikiroid | (talk) 03:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I think i helped a little. dposse 22:11, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I disagree i may be a little bias because i am interested in security but i see nothing wrong with it Kingpomba 11:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

It looks better now, perhaps I'll remove the NPOV template.--The ikiroid (talk/parler/hablar/paroli/说/話) 14:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I hereby grant Wikipedia the right to publish the Manifesto, as long as it includes 'Copyright 1986 by Loyd Blankenship. Used with permission'. [Loyd Blankenship]

Sorry. That's no good. Even assuming you are in fact Blankenship, such a permission is insufficient, as it extends only to Wikipedia, and we explicitly require that a license allow republishing by others, commercial and non-commercial alike. This is a precedent establish on the slaughter of many pictures, and I do not think it will be relaxed for you. Besides, it would have to be put on Wikisource anyway. --maru (talk) contribs 06:29, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


Link http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=7&a=3 is dead. (don't know how to properly edit this. Sorry)

It's moved to http://www.phrack.org/archives/7/P07-03 83.91.36.65 10:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

What do the rest of you guys think about the imitation and updated "Manifestos" littering the external links section? I personally think they should go, as this article is about the original and fanboyism doesn't add much, but I could just be peculiar in this respect. --Gwern (contribs) 04:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I dislike the spoofs they are frivilous and deleterious to the already unfairly-tainted image of hacking. -barfnz