User talk:Habap/Archive02

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DO NOT EDIT OR POST REPLIES TO THIS PAGE. THIS PAGE IS AN ARCHIVE.

This archive page covers approximately the dates between October of 2005 and some later date.

Post replies to the main talk page, copying or summarizing the section you are replying to if necessary.

Please add new archivals to User Talk:Habap/Archive03. (See Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page.) Thank you. --Habap 20:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Inalienable/Unalienable

Hi, I notice that you have entered a discussion with Zephram Stark over at Talk:Inalienable rights. Just wanted to let you know that there is very little point in arguing with this person. Examine Talk:United States Declaration of Independence and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unalienable rights, and Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Zephram Stark. "Inalienable" and "Unalienable" are synomyms (as indicated in any dictionary), but this person refuses to believe it, and will not be deflected.--JW1805 00:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I had viewed his intransigence already, but figured it was my turn to try to bring things back into line. Thanks for your note. --Habap 14:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] EagleWSO’s changes

I have raised them at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Non-standard ordinal abbreviations. Your comments are welcome. Susvolans ⇔ 17:29, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sheehan

Yes, the Sheehan is long(-winded), and not very well written in some parts. But many of us worked hard over a period of many months to get the chronology exactly right, with the thought that future editors might eventually try to obscure what actually happened, as it happened, for example the visitors and when they came (some might say: "nobody supported her")... Your last edit read this way--with no end to the sentence. Anyway, the edit didn't save much space.

  • August 27-August 29, 2005: Native American activists Russell Means[159][160], and Dennis Banks[161][162], Actor Martin Sheen, and Rev. Al Sharpton[163] [164] Badagnani 16:54, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Oops. My bad. I do think we should combine those four visits into one line, but I did forget to include a verb. I intended this as a first step in helping to consolidate the entries to keep the meaning while reducing the article length. After all, the journey of a thousand miles starts with one step.
I do want to know why we need to have those two entries on the 16th and why we need to put the date for Katrina's landfall in there. I don't see how either adds value to the article.
I am equally concerned that future editors will get the trimming wrong. If it isn't done now, by people who care, someone will eventually just wipe most of the article to say "anti-war activist" and nothing else.
Oh, and the amount of hard work already done doesn't mean future hard work isn't required or useful.--Habap 17:10, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

I've been clear--the chronology was documented, blow by blow, for posterity, a valuable thing, as I don't think anything quite like this exists elsewhere. Where the trimming might be more useful would be in the body of the article itself, with its excruciating detail of statements, counter-statements, etc. Badagnani 13:56, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually, the Hurricane Katrina timeline does a better job of describing what happened with Katrina than the entries on Sheehan's timeline. Can you respond to my specific questions about specific date entries? I suppose I should take this to the article's talk page, since it would make more sense to have a content discussion there.... --Habap 14:07, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sturmgrenadier

I'll not revert again either. If you feel that that information is beneficial in some way, put it back in. I was concerned because it's unsourced, uses lots of weasel words without making a lot of factual claims, and didn't generally seem to be making encyclopedic statements. But at most that's just one guy's opinion, nothing personal. (ESkog)(Talk) 23:00, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I marked it as a minor edit accidentally - I do a lot of recent-changes patrol so it's almost instinct when I revert... Thanks for being civil about all this. (ESkog)(Talk) 23:11, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

  • I removed it again, because it's absolutely unencyclopedic to include a completely unsourced rambling about how "some people" think it's elitist and "some people" don't, yadda yadda yadda yadda... It's Gaming Clan Drama (tm), which is all well and good for someone's personal home page but does not belong on Wikipedia. FCYTravis 12:04, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Actually, the entire page doesn't belong on Wikipedia. --Tykell 21:18, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hi there, I don't think I've run into you before, but I just wanted to say thanks for your civilized and helpful comments in Afd. All too often with deletion debates, emotions run high and useful discussion gets put in a corner and forgotten. It gives me hope that Afd can sometimes work when I see people actually thinking and considering arguments instead of just picking a side and rabidly defending it against all logic. Friday (talk) 14:50, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome. Yesterday, I was emotional about it. Then, when walking my dog, I tried to imagine explaining to my girlfriend what I was upset about. That really put things back in perspective. Then, I did get to see people actually put time and research into their votes and then explain them. So, I think it was a good process. --Habap 14:59, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sturngren

Sorry as wasn't able to vote as you wished. However I have annotated the AfD with my comments, based on the behaviour of the cabal (or the members involved). --Simon Cursitor 13:37, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Military history: Coordinator elections

WikiProject Military history The Military history WikiProject is currently holding elections for project coordinators. Any member of the project may nominate themselves and all are encouraged to vote here.
The elections will run until February 5.

--Loopy e 04:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for showing me the edit count! I did not know that tool existed -- but I have only been editing about a year, 7 months under oldwindybear, and before that just on my ip address. What a neat tool! Thank you for taking the time to show me it.old windy bear 15:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem. I had seen it in the recent ArbCom elections and found it really useful, so thought it was a good tool for all of us to share. --Habap 15:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commander Boxes

As requested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Martorius -- Sort of just a take on the Military Unit box, but it serves it's purpose. Martorius 21:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Excellent! --Habap 22:08, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Oh dear; you're way ahead of me ;-)
I've created Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military person infobox as an initial draft of the usage instructions; please fill them in as you go along. You might want to take a look at my comments here as well. —Kirill Lokshin 22:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

I would like to thank you for your support for my candidacy for the Military history WikiProject coordinator position. I am now the Lead Coordinator, and I intend to do my best to continue improving the project. If you ever have any questions or concerns regarding my actions, or simply new ideas for the project, be sure to let me know! —Kirill Lokshin 00:05, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cheers

I don't wanna overdo it or anything, so here's just a brief note thanking you for supporting me in the WikiProject Military history coordinator elections. Cheers, and I hope I can please as Assistant Coordinator! --Loopy e 01:25, 6 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Military history WikiProject coordinators

Sorry I am late! Been away watching the Superbowl. I'm not good at thank-you messages, but still, thank you for supporting me, I'll do my best. :D If you ever need help, you know who to ask! -- Миборовский U|T|C|M|E|Chugoku Banzai! 03:48, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scouting

HI. I am the coordinator of the Scouting WikiProject and Portal. I see you work on lots of Scouting topics and thought you may want to join us. See: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Scouting#Participants_and_primary_areas_of_interest and Portal:Scouting...Rlevse 17:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

This Barnstar is presented to Habap, by Thought, for diligent efforts regarding the Cindy Sheehan article.
This Barnstar is presented to Habap, by Thought, for diligent efforts regarding the Cindy Sheehan article.

This Barnstar is hereby awarded to user Habap for outstanding commitment and endurance in the quest to bring the Cindy Sheehan article, particularly the Chronology sections, up to an encyclopedic standard of quality. Thought 21:55, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Aw, shucks. Just trying to help. --Habap 21:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Military history WikiProject Newsletter, Issue I

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter
Issue I - March 2006
Project news
From the Coordinators

Welcome to the inaugural issue of the Military history WikiProject's newsletter! We hope that this new format will help members—especially those who may be unable to keep up with some of the rapid developments that tend to occur—find new groups and programs within the project that they may wish to participate in.

Please consider this inital issue to be a prototype; as always, any comments and suggestions are quite welcome, and will help us improve the newsletter in the coming months.

Kirill Lokshin, Lead Coordinator
Current proposals
  • Proposed guidelines for categories of military people are currently being discussed. A number of issues have already been resolved, but the proposed scheme is still in draft form and further input would be very welcome.

delivered by Loopy e 04:58, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Sollog article

Before you revert, can you please explain the reason on the talk page. I am willing to discuss this issue, but it appears you are reverting me out of spite rather than any particular need or desire for Sollog's birthdate to appear in the article. Is there a reason why we should ignore the guidelines for conduct outlined at WP:BLP? Vivaldi 21:03, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Responded on Talk:Sollog. I see no reason not to include the birth date of a public figure which is widely available on the internet. --Habap 21:10, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Squamish, BC

Good work keeping racist material off the Squamish, British Columbia article. I think that the editor in question (along with User:207.81.122.3) is a sock of banned user User:HD_123321 (interestingly, he lists "Q Romenov" as one of his enemies). If the vandalism continues, it may be good to get an admin involved. --TeaDrinker 23:25, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for all your work on the article. I have gone ahead and added User:207.81.122.3 and User:Qromenov to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR for Three revert rule violations. Thanks again, --TeaDrinker 16:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Excellent. I have found him/them frustrating in the extreme. --Habap 16:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Habpap guess what putting camp summit violates the NPOV. You are a racist vandal youself.

How does the Camp Summit link violate WP:NPOV? Please explain. I see nothing on their website that says anything about race and simply including the link doesn't endorse the Camp anyway. --Habap 14:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

--207.81.122.3 18:57, 14 April 2006 (UTC)=hABAP=

WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS ON MY CASE? STEPHEN HARPER AND SQUAMISH. I LIVE IN SQUAMISH AND BELIEVE IN STEPHEN HARPER. GET OUT OF SQUAMISH'S PAGE AND STEPHEN YOU YANKEE. HIS RELIGION DOES MATTER BECAUSE HE IS A RELIGIOUS PERSON.

- ED

Is your name Edward or are you trying to fool people into thinking you are THE editor of Wikipedia? --Habap 16:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


No me name is not Edward it is EDwardo and I am not THE EDITOR I am da editor.

- ED

Excellent. It is always great to meet someone who is amusing! --Habap 20:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Say, if you know that Harper is a religious person, how could you fail to know which religion he practices? --Habap 20:06, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 Well at least you are a soldier of christ, or at least your education came from a holy instution.

Just because I only said he was religious, that does not mean I do not know he is a member of the Christian and Missionary Alliance Church of Canada, he has routes in the united (note the uncapitalized "u") church. He attends East Gate Alliance in Ottowa. I am a member of the Conservative Party of Canada and a Christian I know what he is. There is a reason he says the very wonderful saying that he says: "GOD BLESS CANADA" and I would add "and no place elese" just kidding about the no place elese part.

- ED

Edwardo, I had assumed from your original post on the PMs talk page that you wondered what his religion was. Reviewing the archive, I see that was not the case. My apologies for assuming incorrectly.
The Christian radical right in the United States apparently uses that tag-line: "God Bless America, and no place else", which Chris Rock had his Republican opponent use in his movie "Head of State". Rock retorted with "You say 'God bless America, and no place else'. How about 'God bless America, and everywhere else'?" Count me in with Chris Rock on that one. May God bless the whole world, because we sure need it. --Habap 13:23, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

I completly agree with you on the GOD bless thing. You do not seem as bad I thought you were, but you still seem a tad bit liberal. Camp summit by the way is nothing I drove by it today, guess what I saw? two dinky buildings and a portable beside the Easter Seal camp.

- ED

Edwardo, true, I do have some liberal in me. I am what they used to call a Southern Democrat - I tend to vote Democratic, but am very pro-military. As I get older, I also tend to dislike paying higher taxes even more. I'm indifferent to people's religion and skin color - it's all in how they act. Someone who puts in an honest day's work, respects others and sticks to a moral code (usually one learned in church!) is good by me, regardless of the rest. There are people of every race, religion and ethnicity who succeed in that and also that fail in that. People are people. --Habap 12:21, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scouting article work

If you are getting this, it is because you do or did work on Scouting articles (see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Scouting#Participants_and_primary_areas_of_interest).

As the Scouting WikiProject has been formed since early January 2006, we've had many great improvements made in this area of Wiki and I want to personally thank everyone for their help. We don't always agree on things, but we keep moving forward. YIS, Rlevse 22:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue II

The April 2006 issue of the project newsletter is now out. You may read this issue or change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you by following the link. Thanks. Kirill Lokshin 18:40, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vietnam

why did you remove the external link to Manhattan's book?Bharatveer 11:53, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Had described it in my edit summary. Went back and described it in further detail in the Talk page for you. --Habap 14:00, 9 May 2006 (UTC)