Talk:Habar Yoonis

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193.220.44.135 22:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC)Grand Somal Few would dispute that, the recent parliamentary elections seem to point that way , on nobility I think their steeped and observant in Somali culture which somehow gives them the aura of nobility and aristocracy.

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[edit] POV

Seems to me the first paragraph after the POV tag is obviously 1)written by someone with a very strong POV in regards to this topic, and 2) is such atrocious English that one wonders if any of it belongs in an English encyclopedia? --Bill W. Smith, Jr. 21:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for removing the paragraph I was questioning. It is, however, bad wikimanners to remove someone elses comments from a talk page (other than a personal talk page you own) without archiving. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. 04:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sir Richard Burton

We need to cite a source for the Richard Burton quote. Furthermore I don't see why his portrait merits inclusion in this article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

The section has since been removed. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maintenance

This article needs to cite its sources, particularly concerning assertions of aristocracy, territorial dominance, etc. The clan lineage section also needs cleanup (e.g. pruning) and (speaking as a non-Somali) it would be helpful to see all that information placed in some sort of context. I have tagged the article for maintenance, but various editors (mostly anonymous, from within the 88.105.xxx.xxx IP range) are removing the {{Unreferenced}} and {{Cleanup-confusing}} tags from this article. I've left messages (e.g., {{drmmt}}) for the individual editors, but this seems pointless as the IP address keeps changing. I've requested semi-protection for the article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Revisions

The whole article requires revision as it appears it has been written by a child. It is confusing and out of context. The spelling is horrendous and the grammar even worse. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mali0208 (talk • contribs) 09:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions

Clan Structure requires major revision as it does not need to be that long; all it needs to be noted are the major HY tribes without going into families. E.g

HY

Cali Siciid

Carre Siciid

 Carre Siciid
  Isaaxaq Carre
  Muuse Carre
  Dandaan Carre
  Kuul Carre
  Gambo Carre
  Ismaciil Carre

    Ismaciil Carre
       Yoonis Ismaciil (Sacad Yonis)
       Muuse Ismaciil
       Cabdalle Ismaciil

          Cabdalle Ismaciil
             Idareys Cabdalle
             Muuse Cabdalle
             Cumar Cabdalle
         
                 Cumar Cabdalle
                   Ugaadh Cumar
                   Kalliil cumar
                   Aadan Cumar
                 
                     Aadan Cumar
                      Cigaal Aadan
                      Maxamed Aadan

                        Rooble Maxamed (Carabala)
                          (A)Baho Rooble
                          (B)Samatar aadan
                        Xildiid Maxamed

                        Xildiid Maxmed
                          Abokor Xildiid
                          Xasan  Xildiid
                          Xuseen Xildiid
                          Cismaan Xildiid

                            Cismaan Xildiid
                             Cali  Cismaan
                             Cabdi Cismaan
                             Muumin Cismaan
                             Xirsi Cismaan

[edit] Basic Structure

I agree whole wholeheartedly. Its best to use the basic structure below:


1 Habar Yonis (Saciid Ismciil)

   1.1 Cali Saciid
   1.2 Carre Saciid
       1.2.1 Isaaxaq Carre
       1.2.2 Gambo Carre
       1.2.3 Dandaan Carre
       1.2.4 Kuul Carre
       1.2.5 Muse Carre
       1.2.6 Ismaciil Carre
             1.2.6.1 Muse Ismaciil
             1.2.6.2 Cabdalle Ismaciil
                     1.2.6.2.1 Idareys Cabdalle
                     1.2.6.2.2 Muuse Cabdalle
                     1.2.6.2.2 Cumar Cabdalle
             1.2.6.3 Yonis Ismaciil
                     1.2.6.3.2 Reer Barkad
                     1.2.6.3.2 Reer Maxamuud
                     1.2.6.3.2 Idareys

please help complete the above partial list by continuing with the same structure.. Thanks.

I think one of the main issues might be that Somalis are taught to recite their lineage from memory as very young children. While this works for the oral tradition of Somalia, it just doesn't translate well into a neat, grammatically-correct English dictionary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.237.207.44 (talk • contribs) 16:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)