Talk:Ha. A. Mehler

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This article was nominated for deletion on 6 June 2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

[edit] Notability

40 books is an assertion of notability. Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not about JUST ANY 40 books, it's about 40 valuable World bestsellers on business and self-help.
I gues you might want to support opinion of the US Government - they have granted Mr. Mehler with special visa last fall for his valuable input into literature: they had special comission on this and issued appropriate certificate.
Rather then just saying "I don't know this guy, so he is nuts", one could probably go out and educate himself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CymRu (talk • contribs)

To be clear, I am reasonably certain this person will not survive AFD. However, if the 40 books are real, notable books, that's great. Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It is interesting to note that Amazon only lists 2 books under his name. [1] Or am I searching incorrectly? --Fang Aili ^talk 16:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

He lives in US since last year. That's why books in English are just starting. Most of his books are in German. What is valid here is that US Senate had a special comission and engaged a literature professor from University to evaluate if he deserves any assistance. Verdict was absolutely poisitive and has been supported by special visa to US.

As fare as I know, many contracts for his books has been signed this year both in US and in Europe (France is very active), so more titles are expected to be available very soon.

On some subjects, like financies for example, Mehler is one of the biggest German authorities. And Germany is the 2nd biggest book market in the World. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CymRu (talk • contribs)

can you please cite sources? - Adolphus79 16:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

One of the immediate sources is www.Mehler.Us site, stated in the list of external links. I could find names for those who has been evaluating significance and importance of Mr. Mehler's works, but that would take some time. Shall I? Cimmerian 16:27, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, give me some time, I should have it somewhere. Cimmerian 16:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

yes, please... also, please check WP:Notability... Published authors, editors and photographers who received multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work... just because he's written 40 books does not make him automatically notable... if they were all crap (no offence)... - Adolphus79 16:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm new to WikiPedia, so I have trouble understanding how many of these features work. Yet. Like notability.
And talking about the books, it's just the case - they were noted by expert as a valuable input in the literature.
Hold on, I found that evaluation - it was easier then I thought.
I'm putting part of it here now, will be available in a moment Cimmerian 16:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

being new to Wikipedia, I might recommend that you read the above listed WP:N, as well as WP:NPOV, WP:V, and WP:NOR... the "big 3" rules around here... we're not a bunch of meanies, I promise... just trying to keep the encyclopedia accurate, and the entries worthwhile... if you need help, feel free to ask... good luck, and happy editing... - Adolphus79 16:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your advise, I will study it all, sure. Takes some time - English is not my native language, you know, plus understanding how it works...

OK, here is citing from the expert letter. It has 3 pages, I have it in a fax form, so retyping it all is something quite difficult. I can upload imagessomewhere if needed.
...
Seatle Pacific University
College of Arts and Sciences
Division of Humanities
3307 Third Avenue West, Suite 109
Seatle, Washington 98119-1922
December 8, 2004
Evaluation of the Credentials of Mr. Horst Mehler, File #200216251
Prepared by Thomas Trzyna, Ph.D., Professor of English, Seatle Pacific University

I have been asked to review the credentials of Mr. Horst Mehler, a German national, for the purpose of determining whether he meets the USCIS standards for a 0-1 visa, which requires evidence of extraordinary ability in the field of literature. For the purpose of this evaluation, I have reviewed the USCIS criteria for extraordinary ability as they apply to literary artists. I have also reviewed a file...
...
WELL, HERE ARE 3 PAGES - I CAN UPLOAD IMAGES, RETYPING THEM IS SOMETHING QUITE HARD
...
The evidence of his publishing career, book reviews, appreciations, testemonies, letters from publishers, and letters from government officials conclusively demonstrates that Mr. Horst Mehler's literary output meets the USCIS standards for an artist of extraordinary ability. He therefore meets the requirements for an 0-1 visa.
SIGNED by Thomas Trzyna, Ph.D.
Cimmerian 16:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Did I do something wrong? I tryed to substitute "Citation needed" by the refernce to the above stated file #200216251, and there a new delition notice appeared in the article. I didn't intend to do it wrong, really. Cimmerian 17:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Someone edited out over half of all content from the article. Was it garbage? Shall I put in some different information? Which one? Cimmerian 17:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AFD

I apologize for nominating this article for deletion. I reviewed the names of the books you alledge this author has published, and was unable to find any of them. I searched for the name of the publisher, and was able to find a company that makes paper-cutout books. Unless this is Horst Mehler, the scientologist, or Horst Mehler the sender of a letter denying the holocaust, I see no reason to believe the individual is notable. Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I can not comment why you didn't find publisher or books - they were printed and I could probably find information on how many copies has been sold (most of them are bestsellers and over). I can not say about Web shops, where the information was probably searched, description for the books could be found at the www.Mehler.Us site.
I've got those on paper in printed form, can take poictures and send.
Part of the "Evaluation of the Credentials of Mr. Horst Mehler" has been cited above. I could upload the rest of this document somewhere if needed.
Also, Mr. mehler could be asked questions directly, his address is here.
Please advise if I shall submit more information, change something or assist in any other way.
Cimmerian 17:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I found 48 books by Mehler on Amazon, they are all here, have a look!
Cimmerian 17:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

you might want to bring up both of those points at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Ha. A. Mehler... - Adolphus79 17:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Isn't it enough to have it here? The link you suggested is in read - means that article doesn't exist.Shall it be created?
The link to WikiPedia page in German where book co-authored by Mehler is listed.
Cimmerian 17:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Yest another site, where many books by Mehler are listed.
Cimmerian 17:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Shall it also be mentioned that the book in English "How to Write a Bestseller" is available from ALL e-book stores? Try it, it's true.
Cimmerian 17:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I've got a fax copy of Nobelty Certificate, granted to Mehler by Chzeh Government for the book Outstanding Achievements In The Art of Politics: Searching for the Secrets of Political Success. It's somewhere, I can not find it right away, but surely will if needed. I could upload it somwhere then. Please advise if it is needed. I'll drop by tomorrow, it's so late already in Moscow. Chies, all!
Cimmerian 18:09, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

One last thought for today - I've got books in printed form, so I can copy ISBNs from them! I will do it tomorrow for at least those titles I have in hand.
I just did it for 2 books: German editions of "Thank you!" and "How to Write a Bestseller" - clicking on ISBN finds all (MANY!) editions of each one if you look through European book catalogues. Try it!
Cimmerian 18:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)