Talk:H&M

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Any reason as to have the non NPOV warning still up? Brianto 23:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC) None of my business really, but looks neutral to me. 12.14.174.162 04:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

This article refers to the company as "H&M", and even states in the article that the company's name was officially changed to H&M. If no one can give good reason why it shouldn't be, I'm moving this article to H&M, and leaving the current page as a redirect. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:27, May 24, 2005 (UTC)


This makes absolutely no sense: "£8,800 million USD." US Dollars implies not British pounds, yes? Also, don't "millions" in the thousands mean "billions"? +swaly 01:26, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] H&M in Miami?

Rumors are circulating at the University of Miami that H&M is in the process of opening a store in Sunset Place, a hot shopping destination in Coral Gables, directly across from the university.

My friends and I are dying for a confirmation! Please, if anyone out there can provide some knowledge, post it here! Thank you :)

[edit] Unfair H&M Business Practices

I found this online at http://www.socialistworker.org/2004-1/483/483_11_LaborInBrief.shtml

It details the poor working conditions at the H&M Distribution Center, not to mention H&M's hostility toward the unionization of its employees. I was wondering if it would be appropriate to include this in the article? If this would be possible, how would could it be properly integrated in the current edition of this article?

I feel that people have a right to know about the more 'darker' aspects of this company and while I in no way want to jeopardize the integrity and objectivity of this article, I do feel that this information, and indeed any information, no matter how good or bad it may reflect on the company, should be shown so that all who are interested may see a complete picture.

Kirobos

Critics about H&M are growing: respect of the store working people, of the production people, environment, ... In the opposite way, I heard positive elements about H&M behaviour towards environment. These criticism are not a minor issue and should be described in the article. Anyone willing to provide elements on these topics is welcome to help me. Lvr 15:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
By all means put in a section, but you must have sources--the socialist Worker is acceptable as one but there ought to be one from a more mainstream source as well, and there must also be an attempt to tell the management's side of the story. DGG (talk) 06:45, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beverly Center Location

In the Southern California section, the Beverly Center is listed as being in West Los Angeles. As West L.A. is traditionally defined as being the area west of La Cienega Blvd., listing the Beverly Center in West L.A. is accurate. Please do not change it back to Los Angeles. Jimmy 21:14, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] European history

Anyone know when the first UK store opened? 81.153.110.174 21:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Of the EU countries, H&M is not established in Bulgaria either.

[edit] H&M in North America

This seems a bit over-detailed: do we really need quite so many of the North American stores to be mentioned? We don't mention every single European store. I can't see why the fact that there may well be an H&M in Pittsburgh at some unspecified date in the future is notable. 86.136.252.231 23:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Right! has just been trimmed. The other sections need trimming too. Comparison with other retailers show that individual stores are rarely mentioned. DGG (talk) 06:43, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Agree a bit detailed, but I think the point is to catalog their recent, and on-going expansion into the US. From a business standpoint, it's interesting to understand the rate, path/location of their plans.69.81.55.167 02:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inexpensive?

I'm sure the part about H&M being inexpensive is written from a Swedish point of view, but it's a bit more expensive and has higher status abroad, at least in the UK. EditorInTheRye 13:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

H&M is really inexpensive. It is one of their base commercial statement ! Inexpensive and fashionable. Lvr 15:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree, it's inexpensive in Belgium too - at least compared to other high street chains. Ninja neko 14:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it's hard to find a objective reference of H&M being inexpensive. I would prefer another phrase like: 'targetted at the low end of the clothing market'. It they succeed in that is not up to this page to conclude. Probably most readers will conclude they succeeded because of their commercial success.

[edit] COS - Collection of Style

Nothing in this article about H&M's new chain COS (Collection Of Style)? A store opened in Brussels this year - but that's about all I know about this. Ninja neko 14:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] EUROPE

where the hell is europe in this article.

america america america,,,,, everyone loves america. blah. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jak3m (talk • contribs) 20:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

It clearly says that the company is Swedish, with flag and all. --64.131.187.129 04:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Why then is Europe after North America in the list - this is very American biased considering the stores have been in Europe for 40 years compared to the last 7 years in N.America. And as Europe has more stores & %50 bigger population surely Europe should top the list in this context. Do we really need to know about Westfield Topanga? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.195.77.146 (talk) 10:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy Section Is Irrelevant

I'm not sure that one case of one store having one employee being sued by one customer counts as a controversy relevant to all the stores. If the case was more in the media, or if it were more widespread, then perhaps it would be relevant, but right now I'm of the opinion that if this needs to be on Wikipedia at all, it belongs in the biographical article of the H&M employee or the victim. Having the controversy on the company page inaccurately suggests that this is a problem with the company as a whole. I will remove it (and copy it here to preserve it) in one week if nobody objects, and of course if you agree with me, then please say so. --64.131.187.129 04:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


i absolutely agree. it is totally irrelevant. if such a "controversy" section were included on a larger company's entry (walmart for instance) the listing would include pages upon pages of isolated incidents. it may be an unfortunate incident, but it is completely isolated unless someone can provide similar problems occurring in other stores. as this is not a systemic problem, or a controversy regarding the company itself, i am removing the entire section. it is not appropriate to list the misdeeds of a single employee or small group of employees within a single store in a company of >60,000 employees. Elysianfields (talk) 00:07, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

  • re-removed the controversy section. see above for explanation. --Elysianfields (talk) 06:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] H&M in europe

this artical says there are six H&M stores in glasgow, are u sure? i a certain there are only 2, do u have a source for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.65.67.239 (talk) 15:01, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

It's a bit of a cheat but H&M class their East Kilbride, Braehead and Silverburn branches as "Glasgow" in their online store locator. There are also two distinct stores in the Buchanan Galleries and one in The Forge. Gr1st (talk) 15:14, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Collaborations

Another designer collaboration missing here: I remember Fiorucci did a mini collection too (but perhaps only male?) Ninja neko (talk) 14:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No H&M Australia

There is no H&M in Australia. This article implies there is. The Kylie Minogue section needs to be put into Collaborations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.210.30.169 (talk) 07:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)