Talk:Gymnastics

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I've extended the gymnastics page somewhat by including references to the various gymnastics disciplines (Artistic, Aerobics, Trampolining..) At some point the disciplines should get their own separate pages, and the main gymnastics page can just be a gateway. In gymnastics you can express yourself in the ways you love!!!

Sundance gymnastics is a sport that is very challenging and fun!.:Evera Gymnastics is a wonderful sport and you just always have to feel good about yourself and know to be the best you can be. You know how everybody says it's not about winning well this sport is kinda like that but this sport is all about compition and you just want to win like nothing else. So GO FOR THYE GOLD EVERYBODY!!!!!

As suggested, I started the separating. anobo 01:58 22 May 2003 (UTC)

Is Sports Acrobatics and Acrobatics the same? I thought about floor acrobatics... anobo 02:04 22 May 2003 (UTC)

No definitely not! Acrobatics comprises circus-type performance elements (trapeze, high-wire etc), whereas sports acrobatics is always done on a padded floor. There are similarities though, for example acrobatics and sports acrobatics both are done in groups and both may incorporate flight skills. -Lavishluau

Do most gymnast girls have six pack abs? well, yes, if you work hard enough you will have a six pack maybe more you must do your exercises correctly in order to earn your six pack. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gymnast0960 (talk • contribs) 20:01, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Why isn't there an article on flexibility?

There are related articles on stretching, static stretching, PNF stretching and contortion that have information on flexibility. If you want an article, start one, and someone might add to it. GUllman 03:12, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Flexibility is now a stub article. Feel free to contribute what you know and what you can research to it. GUllman 17:07, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Chalk

Is the chalk used for the grip magnesia or magnesium carbonate or calcium carbonate? I had always bars of little weight which looked more like magnesium oxide (magnesia usta) than anything else. Stone 15:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I believe, that it is made of magnesium carbonate, see e.g. [1] Cmapm 00:34, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Missing topics

Due to the personal preference I'm editing mostly artistic gymnastics-related pages, and I don't plan to expand this article in the future. But I should like to leave a little review from my POV to give a few hints of what could be done to improve the article.

  • A history section is necessary. Ancient history is covered pretty well in articles like gymnasium (ancient Greece) and Ancient Olympic Games. The section should be mostly focused on the modern history IMHO. I personally should like to see a short summary including the following points
    • when and where each of gymnastics disciplines (e.g. rhythmic gymnastics) originated
    • how did the popularity of each event change throughout the history as compared to other ones (e.g. rhythmic vs artistic gymnastics).
  • Short summaries of disciplines should be expanded (for rhythmic gymnastics no summary at all so far!) to include the following:
    • short description of events/apparatuses/competition format (not just for artistic gymnastics, as it is now)
    • when major competitions (e.g. World Championships) were held for the first time
    • when was a discipline included into Olympic programme
    • which national teams were/are dominant in the event

No hope, that any of these issues will be addressed in the nearest future. Keeping in mind, that the discussion was focused on the chalk and other minor questions so far. I just want to let folks know, that the article as it stands is not good by far, at least in my view. Cmapm 11:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal

This person http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gymnastics&diff=87880629&oldid=87589823 vandalised this article. -Cinnaspice —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.139.44 (talk) 21:15, November 14, 2006

Hey Gymnastics lovers! I love gymnastics too. Its the BEST!!! See you later! Love, Butterfingers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.98.73.2 (talk) 15:02, November 17, 2006

[edit] Renamed Sports Acro to Acrobatic Gymnastics

Following the FIG convention, I've renamed Sports Acrobatics to Acrobatic Gymnastics. I created a redirect page so Acrobatic Gymnastics goes to Acrobatics (just like the Sports Acrobatics redirect. Donagh McCabe 18:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

Do not add external links which infringe the guidelines. Removed many today (Jan 04 2007). This article is being watched for further changes to this section. Additional links which infringe the wikipedia quality guidelines will be removed

[edit] Accuracy

From my understanding, in women's gymnastics, floor routines cannot exceed 90 seconds in length, and the perfect score of 10.0 no longer applies in elite level gymnastics (let alone the balance beam). Can someone clarify this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Etoncal (talk • contribs) 00:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC).

You're right on both counts: FX routines must be 1:30 minutes/90 seconds or shorter. The 10.0 scoring system is no longer used in elite/international gymnastics, but does still exist in lower level competition and the NCAA. I'll take a look at the section and see what I can do to punch it up. DanielEng 16:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What about discussion of stunt growth (height)?

Gymnastics stunting growth. I dont think its mentioned in this article; perhaps it is in another. But I thought it would be a key concept to add. Here is a link to some good information regarding it.

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/17/1676_50495--72.202.129.98 01:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

This may be true for gymnasts at a very high level, however there is a strong cause/effect argument, ie maybe smaller gymnasts do better as it is easier for them to control their bodies and they can be supported more easily? Growth stunting certainly isn't an issue for lower level gymnasts, training for, say under 7hrs per week!

That is wrong. I am 15 years old and 5'2, and i train 5.5 hours a week. Its not genetic, my parents are 5'10.
You're still growing!!-DMCer (talk) 00:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Injuries

I removed the scoring information from the events, since these points are discussed in much greater detail on the apparatus' individual pages.

Also, I removed the lines about injuries: gymnastics is considered dangerous not soley because of the height of the apparatus, but because of the high speed, impact and nature of the exercises. Considering the facts that close to 100% of elite gymnasts deal with at least one serious injury during their careers, over half end up having at least one major operation to fix an injury--not to mention the propensity for eating disorders, stunted growth, osteoarthritis and other maladies--I didn't find that information to be particularly accurate. DanielEng 03:26, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Links to other languages

Should the German link be changed towards the topic Turnen instead of Gymnastik? as the latter is more related to aerobics/exercise? I think we got one of those "false friends" here in translation.VRS 06:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] gymnastic

gymnastic is very much fine game as well exercise for the fundamental of health caring practices —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.29.193.243 (talk) 08:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] caution section

It was brought to my notice that the first section of this article was the section with cautions on the dangers of the sport. It didn't seem an appropriate way of constructing the article. I therefore moved the caution-section to the bottom of the article. Now the article starts off with discussing the different forms of athletics. Dr bab 11:49, 22 April 2007 (UTC).


[edit] Gymnastics Wikiproject

I have proposed a gymnastics wikiproject. If you are interested, please check it out. Help is needed.

Wikiproject Gymnastics Thanx Maddie was here 23:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gymnastics Abs

How do gymnast girls have such amazing abs? It seems like every gymnast girl I know has a 6 or 8 pack abs. Is that pretty common? Even 11-12 year old gymnast girls, you can see their 6 pack abs through their leotards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.228.245.45 (talk) 22:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Let's try to keep this on-topic, but to answer your question (since it's common): Gymnasts (both male and female) are well-known for having large, defined muscles. This is because the sport requires an extremely high-level of strength to accomplish advanced moves. An experienced gymnast will develop well-defined abs over time. It's also interesting to note that gymnasts very rarely lift weights; in gymnastics, you're lifting your body, and that's where the muscle-building resistance comes in. Back to the article ;-). -DMCer (talk) 00:49, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of info on chalk

I have removed the info on chalk and grips in the uneven bar section . Chalk is used in many events, although not as consistently on the bars. Still it seems unnecessary to include so much info on it here. The use of grips may fit under a topic on apparel/protection for the gymnast.

[edit] Beatboard vs spring board

I have seen it marketed with either name and beat board is used in gyms in some places ... for example this blog...[2] more advanced coaches discussing handspring fronts(vault).I personnally am not attached either way but possibly using both terms might be more accurate.(olive (talk) 14:43, 26 December 2007 (UTC))

Heh, I just read a Britanica article that called it a "Reuther board; I basically did what Littleolive suggested.--DMCer (talk) 17:51, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Calorie intake (food consumption)

A new section about food consumption of gymnasts should be included. At present, most gymnasts consume only 1000 kcal/day (see this site) This is far lower than most people that do not exercice at all (most people consume 2500-3000 kcal/day).

KVDP (talk) 07:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)