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[edit] Porcelain phobia source

Guybrush mentions an unexplained fear of porcelain. This phobia may be a humorous reference to Indiana Jones' fear of snakes. It is believed it originates after a fight he had with the Sheriff, back in the first game (where he used a porcelain vase which eventually smashed). Okay. I remember the fight with Fester Shinetop that happened offscreen. I remember lots of stuff happening, including a vase getting smashed. I do not remember it specifically mentioning that the vase was porcelain; and I do not understand how that could lead to a fear of porcelain. Could anyone corroborate this? -DynSkeet (talk) 00:24, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

"It is believed" shows that nobody knows for sure, but that could be a possibility. And for the vase's material : if it was smashed, it is probably not made of metal, so it leaves Glass, Porcelain and other stuff, but if it was exposed in a 16th (or is it 17th) century manor, chances are that it indeed was porcelain. Glaurung 06:07, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
I've heard from fan(atic)s that there was a LucasArts newsletter or something containing a MI comic, where LeChuck turned Guybrush into a porcelain statue.
A (now dead) famous French humorist from the late 70s-early 80s, Pierre Desproges, mentions in his '86 stand-up that he is "afraid of porcelain" (he was born in Limoges, which is famous for its porcelain ; he concludes: "You must have lived in Limoges to understand."). I don't know if it's related.--195.221.0.6 10:14, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Im sure that this is a reference to Raiders of the Lost Ark. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.89.218.226 (talk) 02:52, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Age

On another note, the article mentions Guybrush being trapped for five years in the Carnival of the Damned. This doesn't fit at all with the timeline we know, or Guybrush's age, but I'm not familiar with EMI. --Kizor 12:44, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Not sure about the comic. I remember Sam & Max comics in the newsletter, but none about the statue mentioned. But the five years -- I believe that comes from the opening narration in CMI. Guybrush is drifting in the Caribbean in a carnival bumper-car, writing in a journal (which is also read in voiceover). If I'm not mistaken, and I probably am, Guybrush mentions that he was trapped for five years. Anyone have the game handy to verify? -DynSkeet (talk) 13:33, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
I had the game handy. Playing the adventure games of your non-English-native youth always gives a weird feeling when you can now understand everything... but no, there was nothing of the sort in the intro. Also, near the endgame Guybrush is shown to be twenty, and in MI2 (which I memorised as a pre-teen) Guybrush is 19. --Kizor 16:42, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Hm. No idea where it came from then. I suppose unless someone can verify it, it should be removed. -DynSkeet (talk) 15:53, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
Although I don't remember the exact point, I am pretty sure it's mentioned in the game, somewhere. And I remember that because the number five stroke me, realising it was the number of the years after MI2, trying to establish some real-time continuity. Pictureuploader 20:02, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
That's right. The five years (and the Voodoo Lady mentions six years at one point) is nothing more than a comment about the length of time between the games. Canonically, I doubt he was imprisoned for more than a few months. -- Supermorff 14:41, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Monkey Island has never had a very well established canon to begin with and almost all timeline seculation can be considered redundant as they have a tendency of being retconned in later games. In other words it makes little difference.

[edit] Looks

It would be great to examine the visual appearance of Guybrush more, particularly the differences between his looks throughout the series. Should we upload more pictures of him? - Sylph

I think more should be uploaded. --Dann

We should consider changing his main profile picture to one from a different MI game. Since MI4 was the game in the series most disliked by critics and least recognized by fans, a picture from MI one or MI three would be more plausible. theGeoffMeister 19:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I've uploaded a picture of him from the MI1 box art. I think it's the best image we have of Guybrush as he was originally conceived. The image might look a bit 'busy', so I can work on removing the background if people want. CountingPine (talk) 03:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
That looks good to me. ●BillPP (talk|contribs) 05:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Plus the graphic is HORRIBLY ALIASED. theGeoffMeister 19:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Can we get access to the closeup in MI 1, when Guybrush is opening the parrot's cage? -BaronGrackle 21:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inspiration References

I do not see any corelation with Will Turner from Pirates of the Caribbean, or John Dorian from Scrubs.

The only similarities with Will Turner would be that they are both pirates. Theres really nothing linking them at all. This reference should be removed, or at least some support evidence should be listed.

Now although the article ties Guybrush in with John Dorain, it only lists differences. Unless the similaries are: they both dislike an object, they both have a favorite drink, and they both have an enemy. Im pretty sure that would link pretty much any character anywhere to John Dorian. Again this reference should be removed, or some actual evidence should be presented.

any thoughts?

-FluxRez

Agree and removed. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 23:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carnival destroyed

In EfMI Murray clearly states that LeChuck destroyed the carnival after being released by Ozzie. Guybrush only blows up a section of the Roller-Coaster of Death burrying LeChuck. TheHande 21:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 5 years?

From the article:

At the beginning of CMI, Guybrush definitively states that he was imprisoned by his arch enemy LeChuck for five years

Okay, I'm dying to know where in the beginning does it state that. To make sure there are no misunderstandings I'll quote the prologue of the game word-for-word:

Captain's log, Guybrush Threepwood.
Lost at sea for days now. I have no crew or navigational equipment. No provisions except a half-eaten corndog, and unless I find water soon I'll surely be done for. Only the hope of finding my love Elaine keeps me going. My quest for the fabulous treasure of Big Whoop is what has left me in this sorry state. I thought it would bring me fame and glory. Instead it lead me into the glutches of my enemy, the Zombie Pirate LeChuck. I thwarted his evil plan to marry Elaine and he was after revenge.
I'm really thirsty now. If I could only find some fresh water, I'd might have the strength to sail on. But I know there's nothing but ocean for miles and miles. If I could reach land I might some food... fruit maybe, something to fight off the scurvy and help me get my strength back.
Oh! Why do I torture myself like this. I might as well wish for some chicken and a big mug of grog for all the good it'll do me. Oh, my sweet Elaine. Am I forced to starve on this ocean, without seeing your face just one more time, am I...

-TheHande 14:10, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

No answer. I've talked this over with another MI fan who is also a mod for the WMI-forum and we agree that there are no in-game references, so I'm gonna go about fixing this issue once and for all. -TheHande 09:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for that. --Kizor 10:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Appearance in LOEG?

Moved the League reference to the trivia section as it is both uncertain and non-canon (though interesting). -TheHande 15:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I've removed it. For reference, the text is:

It is speculated that Guybrush Threepwood was one of the pirates to attend a The Pirates' Conference, circa 1775, as shown in the second volume of the graphic novel The World of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

There are several problems with this:

  1. "It is speculated" -- who speculates? This is from a fan website about the LOEG, and the claim is attributed to one "Nevin." Sorry, that's just random Internet gossipo.
  2. More importantly, what similarity? Compare the two pictures on the very page: [1] [2]. I don't see any similarity whatsoever -- one is a stoic, mature older figure, while Guybrush is young, naive, often cheerful, and awkward-looking.
  3. In general, an encyclopedia is not the place for speculation, even if it is sourced to external websites and blogs.

This is completely out of place in the article and should not be restored unless there's some authoritative source that actually confirms any kind of association.--Eloquence* 07:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Character Death

Doesn't Guybrush also die in Monkey Island 2 when left underwater for 10 minutes? At some point in the game, he needs to dive in order to recover an object. Nikos

Back in the days, I was geek enough to check. He just yells (underwater - just go with it) that he's drowning and swims back up. He's forced to dump the monkey head that's weighing him down, but not tied to him. --Kizor 19:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Porcelain in MI 2

Was the reference to porcelain in Monkey Island 2 removed because it doesn't seem to fit with the current article, or was it removed because there is doubt to its authenticity? I'm just wondering, because I felt it was an interesting piece of information within the whole Guybrush-afraid-of-porcelain theme that appears in the later games. Much thanks! -BaronGrackle (talk) 16:36, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Neither, actually. It was removed because it was original research and presented a POV (point of view), both of which are frowned upon here. Pairadox (talk) 17:03, 11 January 2008 (UTC)