Talk:Guy Williams

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Keep the copyedit tag on this page untill you remove all the starting 'and's and clean up the grammar. Krashlandon (e) 21:49, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

how is it now ? --Zzzzzzus 15:27, 18 January 2006 (UTC)zzzzzzus

Still bad. I will try to fix it up later today. For now, I will remove the tag. Have you thought about helping out with translating english articles into spanish? You can read english well enough to translate it. Krashlandon (e) 17:39, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Please do not edit this article while the in use tag is on. All edits other than mine will be reverted. Krashlandon (e) 18:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

It is done. If you add any more major sections, tell me so I can check them.

The English in this article is non-fluent and needs to be fixed. 88.241.12.65 22:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

On a more content-based level, I think there are some problems with the official story of Guy Williams and Zorro. Two main points:

First, although I'm certainly no fencing expert, I did take five or six years of it from Michael D'Asaro and others; and I really doubt that Guy Williams had any significant fencing instruction pre-Zorro at all. He simply doesn't fence like a fencer.

Mind, I think he's one of the best "action-actors" of the era; he plays the fight scenes magnificently, especially the first fight between Zorro and Carlos Murietta in the first-season episode "the Man With a Whip" (episode 31), which is one of the best choreographed fights on TV, right up there with Cavens' work in movies.

But Williams makes a lot of mistakes that no trained fencer would make (for example, his feet often move before his sword arm). I think the page should make clear that his official biography *claims* that he was a trained fencer, but there is no independent verification of either his own prowess or that of his father, Attilio Catalano (the story is that his father was a great fencing champion in Europe; yet I've been unable to find any reference whatsoever to him except on Guy Williams fan shrines).

Second, although the story put out by Disney and ABC was that "the show [Zorro] used real epees without protection," as this Wiki article states, in fact, (a) "real epees" always have protection -- they're made explicitly for fencing; (b) they didn't use epees anyway -- they used fencing sabers and mock cavalry sabers (for the grunts); and (c) in close-ups, the button on the tip of the saber is clearly visible. Fencing sabers are not made without buttons; you would have to physically cut it off. Nor are they made with real edges. They're for fencing, not fighting duels, for heaven's sake!

(The dueling swords used in 1820 would be "smallswords," and they look completely different from fencing sabers; I interviewed Britt Lomond a couple of years before his death, and he confirmed what I thought: they used the anachronistic fencing sabers because that style of fencing looked flashier on screen.)

This is a silly Hollywood PR claim and is patently false; nobody would use sharp swords for filming... it's preposterous. Besides, just look at the show; use that freezeframe!

(Can you tell that Zorro is my all-time favorite TV show? <g>)

Dafyddabhugh 15:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed

Editors please cite sources for content on this page. There are many statements without sources, so please, if you have a source, cite it. Also, I am corecting a few POV statements in the article, but if anyone notices any more, please fix. Thanks. Imageboy1 01:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yes photo is fair-use legal

14-Nov-2007: You might be wondering how such a real photo could possibly still be on Wikipedia: that top photo is described, within the article, as a "publicity photo" not an image identifying a person. The legal caption has been restored (after infobox was added):

Publicity photo of Guy Williams and June Lockhart
from 1965, for the sci-fi TV series  Lost in Space 
(note the silver spacesuits & red trim).

By treating and mentioned the image as a "publicity photo" (not just a picture of Guy Williams), the image meets the criteria for legal fair-use licensing. Few people understand fair-use licensing, so be sure the wording about a "publicity photo" is preserved. This concept could be quite difficult for some people to comprehend: the image is here as an example of a "publicity photo" not an image of Guy Williams. Comprende? -Wikid77 07:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)