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[edit] Picture

The picture attached to this article appears to be of Carrot Top. Can someone fix that?65.207.2.2 21:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, non-carrot-top picture included under Fair Use Hutcher (talk) 19:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What is the source of all this information?

Other than using the movie JFK, what is the source of this info? It should be removed immediately without citation:

On 9th August, 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald distributed leaflets that supported Fidel Castro and his communist government in Cuba. On these leaflets was the address 544 Camp Street, New Orleans. From October 1961 to February 1962, this had been the address of the Cuban Revolutionary Council, an anti-Castro group. Around the corner from 544 Camp Street, located in the same structure but with a different entrance, was 531 Lafayette Street, which housed the detective agency run by Guy Banister. This caused Garrison to suspect that Oswald had been involved in a right-wing conspiracy to kill Kennedy.
On the afternoon of November 22, 1963, Banister and Jack Martin went drinking together. On their return to Banister's office, the two men argued about a missing file. Banister became so angry that he drew his Magnum revolver and struck Martin with it several times. Martin was treated at Charity Hospital.
Over the next few days Martin told authorities and reporters that David Ferrie had been involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy. He claimed that Ferrie knew Lee Harvey Oswald from their days in the New Orleans Civil Air Patrol and had given him lessons on how to use a rifle with a telescopic sight.
This information eventually reached Jim Garrison, the district attorney of New Orleans, who, in 1966, interviewed Martin about the accusations. Martin claimed that during the summer of 1963 Banister and David Ferrie were involved in something very sinister with a group of Cuban exiles.
Garrison now became convinced that a group of right-wing activists, including Banister, David Ferrie, and Clay Shaw, were involved in a conspiracy with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to kill John F. Kennedy. Garrison claimed this was in retaliation for Kennedy's attempts to obtain peace settlements in both Cuba and Vietnam. Jtpaladin 16:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for this note, the book "Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy" is the source not the movie Hutcher (talk) 19:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

All I've heard about Jack Martin was that he was a schizophrenic alcoholic with a verifiable record of lots of time in jail and mental institutions. The story is that he would get mad at someone and then call everybody he could think of incessantly to tell incriminating stories. This article invokes his rantings at face value and reads like conspiracy theory tabloid BS. MrG 4.228.21.139 (talk) 21:41, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

I've tagged this article as NPOV because the majority of cited references are to a conspiracy text which does not qualify as a reliable source under Wikipedia rules. These should be removed and replaced with more reliable sources. An encyclopedia should not rely on such a book for its primary source. Gamaliel (talk) 18:24, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

While it's probably not admissible as a source, the article on the "JFK 100" site on Banister, at "http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100whoban.html", looks like a good place to get some clues. It's far less sensationalistic, the bit about the "mysterious death" of Leon Lomax here sounds particularly cheesy. I can't seem to place Lomax in the "mysterious JFK deaths" lists but I am admittedly a dabbler in the subject. From what JFK 100 says, Banister was ex-FBI and did have indirect links to New Orleans gang boss Carlos Marcello, but he had no real links to the spook community. The CIA had apparently thought of using Banister as a front in 1960, but it seems his reputation as a violent alcoholic turned them off. He did have links with anti-Castro Cubans, at least to the one group that lived next door to him at the infamous 544 Camp street, but there's no evidence to link him to any gun-running or black ops. MrG 23:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Source

Article is far to reliant on one source.


^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 100,236. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 ^ HSCA: Material received from files of New Orleans district attorney's office pertaining to investigation and trial of Clay Shaw, 1967-69, attachment D, section 5, regarding Guy Banister, "Biographical Sketch" (JFK Document 007271). ^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 236. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 ^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 235,236. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 ^ Malcolm X: Make It Plain / Full Documentary " Best MCee Ever" - Rap Music - Zimbio ^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 236. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 ^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 236. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 ^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 235-237. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 ^ New Orleans States Item, April 25, 1967 ^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 499. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 ^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 494. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 ^ FBI Interview of Jack S. Martin, 25 November 1963 & 27 November 1963, Warren Commission Document No. 75, pp. 217-18, 309-11. ^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 494. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 ^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 100. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 ^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 497. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 ^ Playboy interview ^ Garrison, Jim. On The Trail of the Assassins, (New York: Sheridan Square Press, 1988), p. 12. ISBN 0-446-36277-8 ^ "Shoot Him Down" : NBC, the CIA and Jim Garrison by William Davy ^ The Patsy - Oswald ^ Bagwell, Orlando, Malcolm X Make It Plain (1994) ^ Malcolm X: Make It Plain / Full Documentary " Best MCee Ever" - Rap Music - Zimbio ^ Marrs, Jim. Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, (New York: Carroll & Graf, 1989), p. 236. ISBN 0-88184-648-1 Guy Banister at www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk Who was Guy Banister? at www.jfk-online.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.234.10.144 (talk) 11:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Consolidate Info

As Banister has no notability outside his involvement in the Shaw trial. I suggest creating a new article called "Persons related to the Shaw trial" or something to that effect, and merging this article into it along with the ones on Ferrie, Russo, Martin, etc. Any opposition? Ramsquire (throw me a line) 23:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)