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I don't know anything about this person however I edited the spelling and grammar (is that a Wikisin?) Does anyone know anything about Guy Ballard? Sounds like an interesting enough guy, worthy of a Wikipedia article I suppose. Paul 23:02, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Some account of Ballard's wife's prosecution for misusing the US mail; and moreover the disappointment felt by his followers when he did not ascend but merely died, is needed. Jmc29 13.58, 19 July 2005 (GMT)

Are you sure? What happened to Jesus? One could say that one need not literally believe that Jesus's physical body ascended into heaven on Easter Sunday to believe that his spirit "ascended" in some broader sense, or that he was a great mystic, teacher and Son of God and one of the greats of religious history etc. etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.218.196.222 (talk) 12:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] This needs cleanup, neutrality

This needs to be addressed by a non-member of his group. I don't want to do it right now, but someone should go through this and rewrite for neutrality. I've added the rewrite tag. I'll watch the page, so if you have more questions about what needs to be improved, just ask. JesseW, the juggling janitor 21:55, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, I tried, but it seems the stuff about the I AM activity is already covered less weaselly in a main article on it. I suggest after the first bits about Guy Ballard, the I AM stuff could be culled out. Does anyone know how he died? Also, this article says his wife was in legal strife but the activity article states they both were, so in the interests of biography I will transfer some personal stuff across. Julia Rossi 06:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

An extensive newspaper, google scholar search turned up very little on Guy Ballard. He is only notable insofar as he was the founder of the "I AM" Activity, which is itself only somewhat notable. This article should be merged into "I AM" Activity. Fireplace (talk) 23:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with this merger. Guy Ballard happens to be notable as the first person to introduce the concept of "Ascended Masters" in 1934. Millions since then have used that concept, and his particular take on esoteric philosophy and Theosophy, as part of their religious and philosophical systems world wide. As a student of religious history, it does not seem appropriate to exclude him. Arion (talk) 01:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you have a reliable source for the claim that millions have used Guy Ballard's concept of ascended master? Fireplace (talk) 03:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Religious organizations based on a belief in Ascended Masters, such as The I AM Activity, The Bridge to Freedom, The Summit Lighthouse, The Temple of The Presence, over the last 73 years, totaling millions of members world-wide:
(1) Partridge, Christopher ed. New Religions: A Guide: New Religious Movements, Sects and Alternative Spiritualities Oxford University Press, USA 2004. pages 330 - 334
(2) Saint Germain Foundation. The History of the "I AM" Activity and Saint Germain Foundation. Schaumburg, Illinois: Saint Germain Press 2003
(3) Braden, Charles S. These Also Believe MacMillan Publishing Company 2000 pages 257 - 307 Arion (talk) 05:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Alright, I'm satisfied that he's notable. Fireplace (talk) 01:22, 14 December 2007 (UTC)