Talk:Gurbaksh Chahal

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Contents 1 Not very encyclopedic 2 Restoration of unencyclopedic content and use of non-reliable sources 3 Photos 4 See also 5 Concerning btracking cookies

[edit] Not very encyclopedic

Currently this article seems to be full of as many "big claims" as possible without regard for appropriate weight (or indeed, verifiability. It's important to remember this is an encyclopedia article, not the blurb for a book jacket. I've done some rewording, but it really needs more good sources so we can tweeze out what is significant enough to publish (things like the school history seem a little trivial for instance). -- SiobhanHansa 00:36, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Restoration of unencyclopedic content and use of non-reliable sources

I recently made some changes to bring this article into line with some of our policies. Some of these changes have been reverted and some fact tags have been replaced by non-reliable sources. Since most of the editors on this article appear to have limited experience on Wikipedia I thought it might be helpful if I made a detailed explanation of why these changes aren't appropriate:

• is one of the youngest and most successful internet entrepreneurs of recent history. needs to go as it is unsourced and peacockery.
• He went to Independence High School for two years but soon after enrolled in Accel Middle College which allowed him to enter college while finishing high school. ^[1] Uses a source which is a press release, which is not a reliable source for a claim like this, nor does it show the significance of the claim - which seems, like much of the article, to suffer from puffery (or at least inappropriate emphasis of flattering but minor details).
• He was 18 years old at the time. Also puffery - not necessary because people can do basic math. If this is the sort of thing that many significant commentators have said was notable about Chahal, then it may be worth emphasizing, but until then it should stay out.
• Chahal is also a sought-after speaker, featured at conferences including Red Herring, JP Morgan, Bear Stearns and Ad:Tech.^{[2] [3] [4]} His own company is not a suitable source to use as verification that he is a sort after speaker - this needs to be independent, notable third party claims (and ideally there ought to be more than one).
• Under his leadership, BlueLithium was named one of the top 100 private companies in America three years in a row by AlwaysOn ^[5] again, BlueLithium is not a reliable source for this claim. Need an independent, third party source wich could be expected to have done apprpriate fact checking.
• received the greatest honor of Top Innovator of the year. The reintroduction of "greatest honor" is peacock wording and unencyclopedic.

I have restored my original Please discuss here before changing this back.

I'm particularly concerned that these changes appear to have been made by an IP address registered to BlueLithium. This article along with BlueLithium and ClickAgents and MingleNow, all suffer from similar issues. Could editors who are in any way related to the companies and people in these articles please check out our conflict of interest guidelines before continuing to edit the articles. -- SiobhanHansa 02:06, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the unsourced claims and some changes that reintroduced the issues above and similar ones (including unsourced discussion about what Chahal is starting now). This is an encyclopedia article, not a promotional blurb. If independent sources don't find activities or history notable, they are unlikely to be appropriate for an encyclopedia article. Also, I appreciate that Chahal's youth may seem like a good angle to highlight, but unless that has been the focus of independent assessment by noted commentators, it shouldn't be the focus of this article. -- SiobhanHansa 18:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

According to Eileen Koch & Company, publicist for Gurbaksh Chahal, all public pictures are available for use within Wikipedia. SiobhanHansa please do not re-do your change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.135.110.45 (talk • contribs)

Images must conform to our licensing requirements I will continue to remove images that do not. The say so of an IP editor (or even a long-standing, registered editor unless they own copyright) is not sufficient to establish a license and in any case, permission to use on Wikipedia is not an appropriate license for us. Images must be released by the copyright owner under a suitable free license or be in the public domain. The repetitive adding of images with mis-described licensing is a hindrance to getting a proper free image on Wikipedia and wastes the time of other editors. -- SiobhanHansa 00:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] See also

SiobhanHansa - is there a reason you keep removing my See also? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.135.110.45 (talk) 01:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

It's just to keep things in line with our style guidelines. The see also section is for links not already linked to in the article. The ones I removed are already mentioned in the article in context. MingleNow isn't so I've been leaving that one there. See the style guide's annotated article for more on the various sections of a Wikipedia article. -- SiobhanHansa 02:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Concerning btracking cookies

I have read the passage concerning Vandalism

As I see it this addition is not made to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. It is by no means meant to be crude humor or any of obscenity, page blanking or nonsense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.236.190.96 (talk) 20:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC)