User talk:Gunkarta

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[edit] License tagging for Image:Majapahit-map.jpg

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[edit] License tagging for Image:Majapahit Empire.jpg

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[edit] Image for Majapahit

Dear Gunkarta, Thanks for making updates to Majapahit Empire. Can you fix/remove/adjust the image? It's badly harming the page. In the future, please don't leave a change if it's fouled up like that. Cheers, --Smilo Don 19:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear Gunkarta, on second thought, I really object to the map. Please see the talk page. Maybe you can discuss it there? Talk:Majapahit Empire Sorry for the strong objection--I don't mean to discourage your contribution, but this type of map really touches a nerve. --Smilo Don 20:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing on WP; Majapahit

Dear Gunkarta, Thanks so much for getting involved with Wikipedia. Understandably, you feel strongly about Majapahit, but please respect the Talk page. You can reopen the discussion, but you can't just decide to ignore it. Personally, I don't even think the map should be included in its current form, but the other editors prevailed. As a compromise, a note was put on the map to note that it can't be completely relied upon. Please have a look at the the Welcome above, and have a look at WP:3RR. Don't worry--many editors are sympathetic to your position about the Majapahit. Just make your case on the Talk page and WP:3RR before editing the map's caption any more. Cheers, --Smilo Don 18:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image alignment

Instead of revert warring on aligning image to the left in Raden Wijaya article, could you please learn WP:MOS, especially Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Images? Thanks. — Indon (reply) — 08:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

When constructing articles - better a stub tab or if you know exactly which ones - categories - at the bottom of the page are good insurance - in more ways than one - and also the Indonesian project tag on the discussion page - it will keep various issues at bay if you can place them as soon as you are editing the article in mainspace SatuSuro 00:20, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RatuBoko

Is definitely a contestable article - it first read like a non english speakers lift from a cerita rakyat - the now available scholarship makes some of the claims by the unsourced argument questionable - i just never got back to do a re-write (too many projects in hand) - cheers SatuSuro 01:35, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture of the Week

A picture that you uploaded entitled Ratuboko Gate.jpg has been selected as Picture of the Week on the Portal Indonesia for the Week 43, 2007. Thank you for your contribution to promote images of Indonesia.

— Indon (reply) — 15:34, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your image inserted in Borobudur

Gunkarta, why do you always push images you uploaded here should be included in an article? Borobudur has a lot of images already in Commons:Category:Borobudur. We pick pictures that relate to the text given in the article. Could you please read again Wikipedia guidelines, esp: Wikipedia:Guide_to_layout#Images. There states: You should always be watchful not to overwhelm an article with images by adding more just because you can. — Indon (reply) — 07:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK October 1

Updated DYK query On 1 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Trowulan, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Andrew c [talk] 17:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Picture of the Week

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— Indon (reply) — 09:08, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture of the Week

A picture that you uploaded entitled Mendut Temple.jpg has been selected as Picture of the Week on the Portal Indonesia for the Week 1, 2008. Thank you for your contribution to promote images of Indonesia.

— Indon (reply) — 09:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Gajah Mada.jpg

Image Copyright problem

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[edit] Commons...

Hello there. You seem to be uploading a number of pics to wikipedia. Have you thought of adding these to "commons" instead? It's my strong recommendation this is a better way to go for any future uploads. It's where I put my photos for wikipedia. One photo can be used easily across a number of wikipedia's - ie, Indonesian, Javanese, Japanese, whichever. It's the same process to upload - in fact it may be easier. This is the upload page. Once it is uploaded, you simply link it into the article the way you are doing now. Any questions, please let me know. --Merbabu (talk) 00:46, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References...

Please do not add anything to wikipedia without reliable references. This means scholarly content, not lower quality sources. Also, in-line cites are far more useful, in fact, a general list of references is not so helpful. I know you are not the only one so please don't take offense. Ie, i notice this change. Keep up the good work. regards --Merbabu (talk) 04:37, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Please ensure that all info has very good references. This is a fundamental and non-negotiable principle of wikipedia, which will continued to be demanded. Info added without references should be removed immediately. thanks. --Merbabu (talk) 21:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "See also" sections

...sorry, another thing. It's not wikipedia practice to repeat a link in a "See Also" section if the link is already in the article. Ie, regarding these changes], we don't need Sailendra or Borobudur in See also, because they are listed in the article. cheers. --Merbabu (talk) 04:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Prambanan

Info berasal di mana? looks like a copy vio - where does it come from - how come no citations? mohon maaf kalau says kurang sopan - but we need to identify sources SatuSuro 00:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

You will find another editor might want to revert all of your edits unless you either - cite your source, or make an effort to identify the text/web page from which you are either copying or looking at SatuSuro 08:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Ya - bahasa asli saya inggeris - tak apa apa tentang buku asli - saya bisa tambah nanti - maaf kalau saya kurang sopan atau meganggu SatuSuro 08:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] May 2008

This is english wikipedia - that is WP EN, it really does look like you need to stick with WP IN - bagaimana?

When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, tetapi saya harus coba bahasa saya - sudah banyak kesalahan dan kasar untk membuat keterangan tentang WP EN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Majapahit&diff=215741834&oldid=215491696 Reverence - sama dengan bersembah, atau dalam bahasa Jawa - pundhi - untuk give respect to - dalam WP EN, if you put any statement into an article - it needs a reference - source - citation- sebab dalam WP EN - we have WP:N, WP:RS, WP:V, and we want to know where the information came from.

Please consider whether you would prefer maybe WP IN better? Thank you SatuSuro 00:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that's my mistake...., often miss-type f to v... thanks for you correction...

[edit] What is wikipedia not all about

Can you do it more nicely without humiliating or patronizing other contributors? Oh yeah, I want to congratulate you for suceed to become one of my least favourite person here in wikipedia. - found at Merbabu Talk page.

(edit conflict)"D'oh..! Its commonly known that Indonesian motto Bhinneka Tunggal Ika was originated in Sutasoma poem by Mpu Tantular, I haven't met the reverence yet, why user: Merbabu soo rigid about reverence." Apart from being uncivil, your edit summary suggests you still don't understand wikipedia fundamentals. I've seen on Indonesia wikipedia that "common knowledge" is the criteria for inclusion, but not on en. No reference, no addition, no arguments. cheers --Merbabu (talk) 12:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there - mungkin itu - kesalahan terlalu besar? Kalau bisa - try to be more polite - sopan - because in Wikipedia EN - we have some rules WP:AGF and others - if you dont like your mistakes being corrected - maybe you should edit at WP:IN ?

If you feel humiliated, patronized by an editor - there are possibly issues that you need to consider - if your english is not going well - maybe you could consider improving WP:IN - rather than having problems at WP:EN. SatuSuro 09:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Dear, Satu Suro and Merbabu..., thank you for your suggestion for me to get back to WP:IN, and enlightening me in WP fundamentals. But no thanks, I still want to do more contributions to WP:EN as well as in WP:IN. Soo you can expect me to lurking around here in many WP:EN articles, you're all welcome to edit my terrible english or any my unreferenced source anytime. Just bring it on.

I admit there's some of my mistakes I've done here. But I can see that some editor here are realy hmm..., too rigid about reference. If that what WP:EN fundamental is, well what can I say..? my mistakes. However, can you fill in the request for reference rather than rushing to "overkill" an article by erasing or undo it, because its not a mistake at all that Bhinneka Tunggal Ika was taken from Sutasoma book from Majapahit era. Your deletion of "unreferenced truth" has made me snap. Toned down your somewhat 'patronizing' comments, and I'll try to be more "civilized" too. Btw, I haven't dig my old Pendidikan Moral Pancasila text book to gave requested reference, then again..., whatever lah... Therefore I'll try to enrichen my reference sorce and perfected my english, thus try my best NOT to have any problems or any business with you both, or felt being humiliated or patronized by you all "kuncen sesepuh" here in WP:EN. Cheers and Goodbye, <(Gunkarta (talk) 12:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)). 208.110.17.141 (talk) 09:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You seem to not understand what wikipedia is about - try reading through a welcome page again and stop trying to place blame on those who wish to correct you - that is a very small picture view - the wikipedia project is the bigger picture - you have to understand if we did not try to help you - then there are other editors who would do it with less politeness than we try - orang sudah kasar - tampah bahasa atau understanding of where you are coming from - and then you would really want to leave.

If you want to add to items in the Wikipedia english project - you will have to live with issues of WP:RS. WP:N. WP:V - if you do not like that - you will continue to have problems - if not with us - then with others - try to get away from blame - and either get on with editing - or put up - cheers SatuSuro 09:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Whatever.., Thanks to get "easy" on me. (Btw, I hardly can't understand your Bahasa Indonesia "gado-gado" with english, please stick to communicate with your perfect english, I'll try my best to understand with my terrible-defective-broken english.)

OK, I got your message, I'll try to stay away from trouble and try not to have any problems here in WP:EN, meanwhile, I'm gonna bail-out and activate my "ignore mode". Cheers.., Its "nice" knowing you both... Selamat tinggal. (Gunkarta (talk) 12:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)).

[edit] Link to KOMPAS?

Dear Gunkarta, I don't suppose you have a link to the Majapahit picture from Kompas?? I tried their search engine and (1) every link is broken, and (2) they don't seem to have the result online. Perhaps you have a direct link? I'm very curious to read the whole story on Kompas. Terima kasih, Smilo Don (talk) 10:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)