Talk:Gunnar Heinsohn

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The article does not mentioned that many of Heinsohn's publications/results are highly controversial and often not accepted among the mainstream science community in particular those dealing with historic topics but others as well. A detailed discussion of the controversial nature of his research can be found at the German wikipedia entry, unfortunately also most of his sources regarding his reception within the german science community are in German as well, since his work is not that well known outside of Germany. For now please see the German entry for details, I will try to find out out whether there are some notetable english reviews available as well.--Kmhkmh 16:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I did provide references to criticisms of Heinsohn´s view by mainstream scholars I could find, and I will add any further references I can find.

Heinsohn´s chronological ideas are usually classified as chronological revisionism and, as far as I can see, are not accepted by mainstream historians, which I did explicitly state in the article. Please add references to any detailed refutations of Heinsohn´s claims.

His and his colleague Steiger´s work in economics seems to enjoy a mixed reputation - again, I did reference a refutation by Nikolaus K.A. Läufer that is available online, and I did not reference that Steiger was awarded the William Kapp prize for and article based on his work with Heinsohn. So there seems to be both praise and criticism of this aspect of his work.

Regarding the theory that the witch-hunts were part of a general pro-natalist strategy towards repopulating europe, I referenced a refutation by Walter Rummel.

I am not aware of any discussions of Heinsohn´s work on the origins of priest-kingship or the holocaust.

I plan to rewrite and restructure the article, including a special section on criticism as soon as I have time. --Thewolf37 00:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

     Citations to critiques of Heinsohn's chronology revisioning from five critics have been added
     at the end of the entry with two quotations of conclusions and minimal discussion of another's
     critique. To the best of my knowledge these critiques have not been answered.  Heinsohn's 1994             
     article on the World War II airplanes buried in Greenland has been      
     subjected to a scathing critique, "Fraud Exposed?"  by Sean Mewhinney in December 1997 on a   
     list-serve which has been posted to the Discussion page for the Immanuel Velikovsky entry at 
     Wikipedia here.  Phaedrus7 22:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

FYI: "Fraud Exposed?" cited above is a reply to an English translation of item no. 344 in Heinsohn's bibliography in Ref. 1 in the main Wikipedia entry that was posted to two list-serves in December 1997. Phaedrus7 22:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tagging of the article/biased article

The representation of Heinsohn's theory on anti-Semitism is foreshortened and superficial. His main point was that Hitler wished to erase -- both physically and intellectually and spiritually -- the meaning and heritage of Judaism and Jewish ethics for Germany and his Western European allies by literally destroying the Jews as a people. This is how Heinsohn explained the Holocaust: as an attempt by Hitler and his Nazi cohorts to wipe out the memory and the idea of Jewish ethics, which Heinsohn describes at length in his book on the subject, so that the Germans as a people could have the stomach to wipe out and conquer other people and lands they wished to conquer, have the stomach either to make others slaves or to murder them without any pangs of what Hitler called the "Jewish invention": the conscience or ethical norms brought into Western civilization on the part of the Jews -- and carried on by the Christians. Hitler felt that it was the "Jewish conscience" he was fighting against and trying to eliminate for the Germans, so they would be capable of acting like either pagans or cavemen and be able to do what Hitler thought they should do, to act with utter conscienceless brutality to get what he felt was entitled to them. Hitler also saw in the Christian churches signs of this "Jewish conscience," so the Christian ethics he wanted to wipe out was a "Judaized" ethics and the church, insofar as they followed this "Jewish ethics," was equally endangered. That this was totally irrational on the part of Hitler is not the point. What is missing in the Wikipedia entry on Heinsohn is this vital aspect of Hitler's thinking and his intentions and the power this form of anti-Semitism possesses -- as an explanation for the Holocaust as well as an explication of anti-Semitism in general.Svetov (talk) 11:36, 19 April 2008 (UTC)svetov