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The use of model scales for describing fantasy robots is pretty much useless unless you are a fan who knows how big the fictional robot is supposed to be. Can someone include a description of how large the various models are?

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[edit] Topic Merge

I'd like to request that the topic Gunpla Grade be merged with this one. E Wing 15:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I also think it should be merged, since Gunpla is Gundam + Plastic, which means gundam models. 66.183.215.186 (talk) 08:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I absolutly agree wholheartedly. The two pages are near mirrors of each other as it is- the information from both should be compiled into a single page.
Merge please, basically it's the same thing. (75.157.190.68 (talk) 21:07, 20 March 2008 (UTC))
So who wants to do the merge? CABAL (talk) 04:29, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] First Grade?

The very first kits, now 20 years and routinely re-released by Bandai. These kits, when completed, had a very poor range of motion which rendered them almost unposeable. In addition, adhesives and paint were necessities, not options. Although not called as such back then, these models were retroactively categorized as FG (First Grade).

I believe these kits can't be called "First Grade" since there are only 3 kits labeled as "FG" (First Grade itself). These kits are the RX-78-2 'Gundam', MS-06 Zaku-2 and MS-06S Zaku-2 Char Custom, of 1/144 scale and with integrated joints, are produced in year 1990 (content verifiable from the Bandai Gundam Catalog 2004). All other 1/144 kits are referred to as "1/144" only. E Wing 15:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, they need to be categorized somehow. Any ideas? CABAL 17:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd suggest that a single category called "1/144" be made to generalize this category, afterwards any other grades of 1/144 scale be placed under here. E Wing 13:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
That's a good idea that can be extended further. The main categories can be the scale values, and by extension we can fit other things like EX Model kits under them. CABAL 13:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
My experience on Gundamshop's modelling board has been that these older kits are most commonly referred to as Low-grade (LG) or no-grade kits. I'm in agreement that the FG designation really isn't used all that commonly, but as there isn't any "official" term, it may be the best option to simply include a couple of the more common labels used to describe them Shogun221 17:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
How about a first level classing by scale than a second level classing by grade? Sort of to make E Wing's suggestion uniform throughout the whole article. Or you can follow the japanese article that classifies them under "old kits"(旧キット). Iron2000 05:21, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
I think that my first statement is true and the Gundam 00 series is the second series to produce an FG line (although these first kits are not labeled as such). On the 2004-2005 Gunpla Catalog, the FG line is placed between the PGs and the (very) first kits from Mobile Suit Gundam (which can be classified as "no-grade" kits). I'll post the picture of the said catalog after I've found it. E Wing 11:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gundam 00 No Grade

I think it should be added since the 1/100 GN-001 Gundam Exia has been released to the public for a while. I checked around the box at the local hobby shop and no grade ID has been labeled, possibly like SEED's 1/100 models? 66.183.215.186 (talk) 08:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scale Classification

Just done with re-arranging the kits into their specific scales and kit categories, also re-written and added some. Please note that this is still unfinished. E Wing 14:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Extra finish version

I don't think it would be classfied under MG since SEED Destiny #10 Force Impulse w/ sword silhouette Extra Finish Version is HG. 64.180.187.24 (talk) 09:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually not. The there are 2 MG kits as Extra-Finish version: the Freedom Gundam and the Gyan. Also, the Force Impulse + Sword Silhouette is not an HG but an ungraded 1/100. E Wing (talk) 12:57, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
there have been a large number of extra finish version models, that is simply the label bandai uses whenever a standard release is issued with chrome plating. It does not constitute a separate line, as these are exclusively limited edition re-releases.
Yes, it could be a limited version of a certain kit, but the chrome parts of extra finish kits tend to be more glossier than an ordinary chrome-finish kit. E Wing (talk) 12:05, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
The extra finish designation is not specific to the MG series. There have been multiple extra finish HGUC models as well, including the Gouf and Quebelly Mk IIs. Further, most of the specially designated MGs are one offs, specific only to the model listed. An example is the full blast Strike Freedom, which is simply a standard Strike Freedom with bonus parts- this does not consitute it's own line, and should be seen more akin to a 'first eidition' designation. "special" MGs are too limited in scope (usaully a handfull of versions at best) and too diverse (there is a new designation for each special edition model, rendering each of these designations moot) for each to be given a special section, and should be given a single seperate section to cover all of them. I.E., "many special edition varients exist, featuring gimicks such as crystal version clear parts, or full chrome parts, ect." 2:54, 27 March 2008

[edit] Figures: include or not

Is it possible/ok to include information about Gundam figures (GFF, AMSiA, MSiA, Jumbo Grade, etc.) and integrate them to the model kits' scale classification? E Wing (talk) 15:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Currently, I'd say that there are enough action figure lines for them to feature a seperate page, but that seperate page should include all action figure lines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neolordmaxwell (talk • contribs) 09:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)